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Re: Making SB better- Idea Thread
By: Hammertime Date: September 23, 2014, 1:21 pm
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Just thought I would throw this out there. Why wasn't Matt
Larsen considered for the AD position. Does anyone have any
insight into this. The article states. Larsen been with the
program for 19 years and came up from the bottom and made it to
the top.. Don't you think a local guy like him would have been a
good pick for SB Athletics?? Dont get me wrong, I think Heilbron
is the man too and he will do wonderful things for SB. Not to
mention on Twitter this morning, SB announced Heilbron is in the
works to build a indoor Football field.... Just curious!!!
HTML http://www.goseawolves.org/genrel/092314aaa.html
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Re: Making SB better- Idea Thread
By: Chairman of the Board Date: September 23, 2014, 1:55 pm
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A tough loss for the U as Matt was an alum and a longtime part
of the administration... he was there in the old days when...
well, you all remember what it was like.
Good for him though landing such a big job at a place that has
hosted Gameday twice now and has a dominant FCS football program
and will continue to beat FBS teams and possibly even jump up to
FBS (there's always talk about this).
Perhaps we have him comeback someday down the line!
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Re: Making SB better- Idea Thread
By: ecasadoSBU Date: September 23, 2014, 2:03 pm
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I think President Stanley may have been looking for a guy with
experience in a raising revenue and from the Power-5 leagues.
that may have influenced him... but I'm always supportive of
hiring from within and it seems like this guy had a ton of
experience at Stony Brook. I wish him luck as the AD of NDSU. He
deserves it!
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Re: Making SB better- Idea Thread
By: Chairman of the Board Date: November 12, 2014, 11:56 am
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just tying this thread into the football thread... Crazy Eddie
has some VERY interesting insights to add that are relevant
here...
HTML http://sbufan.createaforum.com/stony-brook-football/2012-2020-future-of-stony-brook-football/msg12032/#msg12032<br
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[quote]Also, the problem with a school like Stony Brook is that
there is not a unified team between the administration/campus
life/ and residential life to encourage attendance at athletics
events. These organizations feel like they all work separately
and at times it feels like they work against each other or
compete for the attention of students. Most of the time while I
was at the University residential life (RAs, RHDs, and etc)
didn't even acknowledge that there was a football game going on
at the stadium. They had their own list of events scheduled and
at times they even had events with time conflicts with football.
That's why I hated the whole setup. In a way they would promote
"Residential College" pride but not "Stony Brook pride" which is
absolutely ridiculous. Why do I give a fu** if I live in
Langmuir College... I'm a Stony Brook student and a proud wolf
so they should be promoting university-wide events and not their
on agenda
They SHOULD BE NOTHING schedule when there is a football game on
campus. the Football game and basketball games should be where
all students mingle no matter whether they live in South Campus
or North campus. Its sad that the administration as whole has
not noticed this yet. This is why the campus is so disjointed.
Students don't feel like they are part of a greater whole. They
don't feel like TRUE seawolves. They just feel like students
that belong to their specific Quad and that's it
in my visits to the University of Connecticut I was amazed how
well they do it. They do an amazing job promoting UCONN pride.
Students wear their pride everywhere they go... and not only
that: If they have to Chant "UCONN.... HUSKY" at any location
they would get a crowd to respond to them. Try the same at Stony
Brook with the "What's a Seawolf?" and people will probably
laugh at you.
and UCONN is only one example. I'm sure there is schools that do
it waaaay better than them out there. The Clemsons, South
Carolina, Florida, Syracuses of the world...
Honest effort has to be put in by the administrator. Real
effort. This should also go hand in hand with the constructions
of new facilities to enhance student life as mentioned in the
Making SB Better thread[/quote]
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Re: Making SB better- Idea Thread
By: Chairman of the Board Date: November 12, 2014, 1:41 pm
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posting here from football so its all in one place- for the
eventual letter that Crazy Eddie will pen to the administration!
[quote]its tough today. kids rather play with facebook or
smartphones or whatever. its easier to sit on the couch.
in the idea thread, some solutions that wont get us all the way
there but will help- give away free t-shirts, get schedule
magnets in every dorm, give away free food at games, give away
free tuition, create a loyalty program where game attendees are
entered for free tuition, etc. In the old days, RAs would knock
on doors and pump kids up and tell them to walk over to
Seawolves Field. more signage with schedules, more rivalry
games, get the game piped into the Bench, closed circuit TV in
each room, etc. This isnt the silver bullet, but it
helps.[/quote]
[quote]getting a better Student Commons area. I was at Alabama
this summer, and they have an awesome gathering place for the
students, a circular bowl area, surrounded by eating areas and
the student store. nice place to hang out.[/quote]
[quote]this brings up an interesting question Crazy Eddie... i
wasnt aware that there was such a disconnect. thanks for
sharing your insight as you were in the mix and know what's
going on.
why such a decentralized process at SB?
i agree with your sentiment on getting scheduling together.
the answers are there; that's not the hard part. the solutions
are clear. even the expense- that's not even the hard part,
because the school does have some $$$ to implement. the real
difficulty is getting the message to them, and then, being all
on the same page. so your right Crazy Eddie, disjointed.
greater good, utilitarianism, JS Mill. i remember reading this
philosophy... ironically... at SB.[/quote]
[quote]I think to answer your question in why such a
decentralized process at Stony Brook we have to take a look at
its history, and its present, and the way they are planning for
the future
This school was planned to be a research heavy institution from
the start in the early 1960s. It grew so quickly that no one
really paid attention at the "process" of how things really
should get done. For decades our administrators were focused on
making Stony Brook a top notch research institution and all the
focus was to succeed in that and to a certain extent they have
succeeded (It was only until Kenny came in the early 1990s that
she noticed how ****ty everything else not involving "research"
was at the University. She had great ideas of how things should
be done because she came from the University of Texas-Austin...
and she improved a lot of things but a lot of the old-timers
hated her because her ideas took away from "more important"
things )
Adding dorms, campus dining, a student Union, and athletics
facilities came out of necessity with very little planning and
thought in how to expand the campus cohesively and avoiding the
red tape that we have today. So what we got today is a product
of such a mess. We have the Faculty Student Association managing
Campus Dining/Bookstore/ and the Seawolves Marketplace,
Residential Life managing Student Residences, and you have the
Athletic Department managing Athletic facilities and events. You
also have the Commuter Student Association working for the
interest of the commuter population and the Stony Brook Weekend
Life Council managing Student Activities on Weekends.... Lastly
add the Undergraduate Student Government and Graduate Student
Organization working for the interests of their respective
students... and between this pile of garbage you have the
Students trying to find an event to have fun burried between all
these divisions that some times don't seem to work together.
Dr. Stanley did a great job consolidating and eliminating red
tape with his Project 50... But he basically focused on the
academic and administrative arm of the University...
When is something going to be done to eliminate all the garbage
in the student life side of things? I'm not so sure
But my point is...
All these groups (USG, GSO, FSA, Athletics, ResLife, Commuter
S.A, Campus Dining, Student Life Weekend Council) should have a
common schedule which doesn't conflict between each other. They
should help one another advertise events and should have common
goal of engaging the entire stony Brook community not just a
tiny fraction of the population.
In reality what usually happens is that you end up having one
big fraction of the population who doesn't even find out that
there are events currently going on... or that is attending
another event they care more about... or who goes home on
weekend cuz he thinks Stony Brook is boring and full of apathy
because of little marketing and little unity.
Take a minute or two and visit the site
today.uconn.edu
There you can find out pretty much everything that is currently
going on at UCONN...
Then find me a site other than this ****ty calendar that
promotes events to the campus community
HTML http://calendar.activedatax.com/stonybrook/EventList.aspx?fromdate=11/12/2014&todate=11/25/2014&display=Month&view=DateTime
Stony Brook can do better than that... Sometimes I just think
they choose not to. The solution is there, but our admins are to
blind to even see it. They get away with murder[/quote]
[quote]from what i know, agreed. it grew so quickly, that
things get missed.
i hadnt even heard of some of these groups. to me, the critical
one is the Stony Brook Weekend Life Council. this could be the
key to getting things changed and perhaps boosting attendance.
HTML http://studentaffairs.stonybrook.edu/sac/weekend_life/weekendlife.shtml
but like i always say, mini golf and movies and laser tag aint
gonna do it! we have to look at our competition and what they
are doing right/wrong.
i *love* golf. i play 15 times a year. but look how exciting
this is to an 18 year old:
HTML https://stonybrook.collegiatelink.net/organization/weekendlife/gallery/Album/33344
a whopping 40 students are on the roster for that club. i do
applaud the efforts though. here is the mission:
HTML http://studentaffairs.stonybrook.edu/sac/weekend_life/cosponsorship.shtml
doesnt entirely reflect the ideas we've come up with in the idea
thread, but then again, they are constrained by the powers that
be. its a university-sanctioned club.
i am repetitive- i know. but you have to consider this: a 17
year old holds a brochure for SB, and one for... SJU, Albany,
Delaware, Buffalo, Oneonta, etc. [/quote]
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Re: Making SB better- Idea Thread
By: Chairman of the Board Date: November 19, 2014, 1:30 pm
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Crazy Eddie- were you serious about putting together something
to go to the Administration?
Think it will get airtime? Will it be taken seriously? Who are
the right people to contact?
I am willing to help. I'm sure others here are too. Thanks for
all you do.
-CotB
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Re: Making SB better- Idea Thread
By: ecasadoSBU Date: November 20, 2014, 9:15 am
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I been thinking about it. But as of yet I really haven't written
anything serious. I don't even know who to address it. But I let
you know when I start putting my ideas into paper. Been busy
lately with a lot of work/schooling
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Re: Making SB better- Idea Thread
By: Chairman of the Board Date: January 21, 2015, 8:20 am
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more good news on keeping students on campus- better food and
new facilities:
HTML http://fsa.sunysb.edu/westsidedining/renderings.php
it looks like last spring the west side dining hall opened,
which is a $23M renovation of the former kelly quad dining hall.
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Re: Making SB better- Idea Thread
By: Chairman of the Board Date: January 21, 2015, 8:29 am
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and just as we prepare for new dorms in between irving college
and the wang center... there starts the complaints:
HTML http://sbstatesman.com/2014/12/13/construction-on-toll-drive-results-in-destruction-of-5-5-acres-of-woodland/
[quote]At the Nov. 13 Undergraduate Student Government senate
meeting, College of Arts and Sciences Sen. Taylor Bouraad gave
an estimate that 5,000 trees were destroyed from construction,
but Stony Brook University Media Relations found that although
the trees have not been counted, at least several hundred were
removed.[/quote]
Looks like a new parking lot is going up in that small space
too.
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Re: Making SB better- Idea Thread
By: Chairman of the Board Date: January 21, 2015, 9:00 am
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for what its worth- 10 Cringeworthy Locations at SBU
HTML http://www.sbindependent.org/10-cringeworthy-locations-at-sbu/
[quote]4. Kenneth P. LaValle Stadium – (noun)
a. Where Seawolves wait for hangovers to wear-off, accompanied
by mediocre athletics. Not included: Michael Bamiro, Miguel
Maysonet and the whole women’s lacrosse team. Those girls are
tough and slightly terrifying.[/quote]
again, its clearly the sarcasms of a malcontent, and not
representative of all students, but these are the thoughts of
one student. can this really be how some students think???
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