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       #Post#: 10503--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Making SB better- Idea Thread
       By: Chairman of the Board Date: April 15, 2014, 8:07 am
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       Continuing on to Target Growth.  3000 more students, and 3300
       more beds.  Also great.  But lets get in students that care
       about contributing to the community.  There's something like Paw
       Points or some loyalty program where you can get access to
       tickets by showing up to games.  Lets give access to the coveted
       buildings to those who demonstrate a commitment to the U rather
       than just going to class and graduation.
       With that many more students- and with that many more on campus-
       we have to get more participation in athletic events and social
       events.  We ran some #s above on this thread.  That right there
       is enough students (on top of the already existing ones) to
       create the atmosphere we want.  We just need it to be the right
       type of student.
       Combine new buildings with open spaces and create quadrangles
       and paths- wonderful, this is the right idea ive been talking
       about.
       The administration has done so, so, so well over the last 10
       years.  But its not immune to bad decisions.  For example, for a
       very long time, the "symbol" of SBU, on the cover of its
       brochures, and right when you enter campus, was a broken down
       old rusty yellow swing.  Anyone know what im talking about?
       #Post#: 10504--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Making SB better- Idea Thread
       By: Chairman of the Board Date: April 15, 2014, 8:12 am
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       Ok this is HUGE but the plan on page 8 (right side) looks like
       it includes new dormitories west of LaValle- dangerously close
       to the Bench, the Stadium, the Arena, the north Academic Mall,
       etc.  I havent heard of this plan but i like it.  My guess is
       that they will remove part of the old stadium lot (where the
       factories are) and build 7 buildings and a dining hall.  Just
       have to worry about these kids getting on the train and going
       home...
       But also, why not then build a strip mall there?  Perfect spot
       for a college town...
       Weve mentioned before, but a few more dormitories are planned to
       fit south of Irving College and north of Wang.  Again, SBU...
       this is your chance to follow and not lead.
       #Post#: 10505--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Making SB better- Idea Thread
       By: Chairman of the Board Date: April 15, 2014, 8:13 am
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       Page 9 has the master plan on one map.  Get this- it has the
       Union slated for renovations!  I hope that renovation involves a
       wrecking ball...
       #Post#: 10506--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Making SB better- Idea Thread
       By: ecasadoSBU Date: April 15, 2014, 9:21 am
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       The whole plan since I attended Stony Brook revolves around the
       idea that residence halls need to be balanced around the
       academic center of the University. Basically what we have right
       now is a south side of campus with residences and a north side
       of campus with residences. I don't think its a bad idea that
       they try to put residences near the arena on the northwest end
       to balance things out but it might hurt the growth of the
       athletics department in the future and students may dislike
       being immediately next to the service facilities of the campus
       which are directly to the south of the future residence halls.
       The good part of this plan is that it leaves the area where I
       want a future union completely untouched (maybe will be used as
       parking which is not too bad). So it leaves that remote
       possibility for a new Union in that location :). It also seems
       like they want to renovate the current Union. That's fine I
       guess... they can use it as a Union for now and later on use it
       for something else if they want to avoid demolishing it. It
       seems like Stony Brook is not too fond  of demolishing old
       structures, they prefer renovating them and using the money
       saved to build another facility.
       Also, I like the fact the school is putting effort to unite the
       campus as one. The division of the University into an East
       campus and West Campus does very little to unite the University.
       It should only be one campus and all formal documents of the
       University should avoiding splitting into two like they
       currently do. Perhaps expand the current tunnel under Nichols Rd
       and increase the interactions between both sides
       #Post#: 10514--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Making SB better- Idea Thread
       By: Chairman of the Board Date: April 15, 2014, 1:57 pm
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       one of the good designs back when the campus was planned was
       that we generally do have an inner circle of academic buildings
       (except Roth) and the dorms on the outside.  Crazy Eddie your
       plan again was to put the Union where ESS is?  I think that
       works because its at the end of the mall and also equidistant
       from dormitories.
       #Post#: 10517--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Making SB better- Idea Thread
       By: Seawolf97 Date: April 15, 2014, 7:41 pm
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       Hopefully one of our governors of the future  will make bold
       choice and  officially  declare  a SUNY University  the Flagship
       of the system.  Right  now we have this quasi arrangement  with
       us and UB kind of in limbo since Rockefeller.
       #Post#: 10871--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Making SB better- Idea Thread
       By: Chairman of the Board Date: May 18, 2014, 8:14 pm
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       in the new SBU Magazine, there is a column entitled "Flashback"
       that has this photo of the old Oyster Bay campus:
  HTML http://sb.cc.stonybrook.edu/magazine/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/oysterbay.jpg
       #Post#: 10881--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Making SB better- Idea Thread
       By: sbugold Date: May 19, 2014, 3:09 pm
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       Looks like some of the things to make the SBU surrounding area
       continue to be discussed.  It will be interesting to see some of
       the ideas.  My wife and I will be attending this evening, so
       I'll let you all know if I hear any good ideas:
       THREE VILLAGE COMMUNITY TRUST
       
       Join Us Tonight!
       Monday, May 19th, 6pm
       at the Bates House, 1 Bates Road (off Main Street), Setauket.
       Conceptual Plans for Route 25A
       SBU Student Presentations, Round Two.
       Fourteen students in Stony Brook University's environmental
       planning, policy and design program will present strategic
       visions for the area around the Stony Brook LIRR station based
       on studies of existing conditions of the Route 25A corridor
       completed last semester.
       
       The students will propose a set of short-term and long-term
       investments and policies that could help increase the economic
       vitality of the 25A corridor, provide desired public amenities
       and address environmental sustainability. Four student groups
       will present their conceptual plans, followed by a discussion of
       the proposed strategies.
       The students presented their "existing conditions" studies of
       this location in December 2013 to local residents. There was
       much enthusiasm about continuing these studies and the
       discussions the student presentations inspired. The attention
       given continues to foster actions to make improvements in
       significant ways - evidence the proposed sidewalks and lowered
       speed limit for Nicolls Road!
       
       Everyone is welcome. Refreshments will be served.
       
       Donovan Finn is an urban planner and lecturer in the
       Sustainability Studies Program at Stony Brook University. The
       course is "Theories and Design of Urban Settlements."
       
       
       
       
       #Post#: 10882--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Making SB better- Idea Thread
       By: Chairman of the Board Date: May 19, 2014, 3:11 pm
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       thanks gold- will be very happy to hear comments from the mtg...
       #Post#: 10890--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Making SB better- Idea Thread
       By: sbugold Date: May 20, 2014, 9:25 am
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       [quote author=Chairman of the Board
       link=topic=249.msg10882#msg10882 date=1400530285]
       thanks gold- will be very happy to hear comments from the mtg...
       [/quote]
       First, I should note that the presentations were made by four
       teams of undergrads as one of the assignments in Prof. Finn's
       class.  So, they did not represent in-depth studies with
       detailed plans re: how to overcome community, legal and funding
       barriers.  Rather, they each presented their visions/ideas for
       the future, and specifically focused on the areas adjacent to
       and across from the Stony Brook train station.
       That said, many of the ideas were interesting and led to some
       lively discussion.  Most centered attention on the following,
       dividing the ideas up into short, mid and long-range categories;
       --upgrade of commercial area on North side of 25A, including
       reconfiguring of structures and rear parking in lieu of current
       disastrous distributed parking nightmare.
       --creation of open spaces (perhaps negotiating with Stony Brook
       School) to obtain some land space
       --slowing of auto traffic and easing of pedestrian movement
       through installation of medians, walkways, etc.
       --expansion of train station for more utility, expanded seating
       areas, weather protection for waiting passengers and potential
       for modern transit hub to better accommodate parking, buses and
       taxis
       --general beautification (e.g. walkways, plantings, etc.) and
       sustainability modifications (e.g. solar provisions, rain water
       use, etc.)
       As I indicated, none of this is ready for submittal to anyone.
       But, it's nice to know the conversation is in motion somewhere.
       I think Prof. Finn may be a good resource for anyone wanting to
       pursue some specifics to move forward in the future.
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