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Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
DIR By: iBOsbu
Date: February 20, 2013, 5:39 am
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Games against Div2 are not counted when these RPI, Pomeroy etc
rankings are done. Only Div1 games matter. But you are right
though rankings are useless in a low ranked one bid conference.
There is no at large bid in stake here.
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Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
DIR By: ry1nik
Date: February 20, 2013, 6:25 am
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The ratings are not entirely useless. They could mean the
difference between having a chance to advance to the second
round of the NCAA Tournament or having no chance at all due to
seeding.
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Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
DIR By: iBOsbu
Date: February 20, 2013, 6:42 am
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True.. forgot about that. I guess because we have yet to make it
to the NCAA tourney.
But ry1nik is right.. right now we are 14th seed playing against
3rd seed arizona (assuming we win AE tourney) according to ESPN
bracketology:
HTML http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
CBS has us against 3rd seed New Mexico:
HTML http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
But if we win the AE tourney but our RPI is much lower, then we
would be 15th or 16th seed playing against 2nd or 1st seed where
chances of an upset is almost Zero!
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Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
DIR By: ecasadoSBU
Date: February 20, 2013, 6:44 am
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yeah umbc has a terrible ranking so playing them kills RPI
RPI = 1/4(winning percentage of your team) + 2/4 (opponent's win
percentage) + 1/4 (opponents' opponents win percentage)
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Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
DIR By: ry1nik
Date: February 20, 2013, 6:44 am
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At a #14 seed we have a 1 in 7 chance. Woo hoo!!
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Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
DIR By: iBOsbu
Date: February 20, 2013, 6:46 am
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--- Quote from: ry1nik link ---
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> At a #14 seed we have a 1 in 7 chance. Woo hoo!!
>
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;D ;D ;D
I will take that!
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Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
DIR By: ry1nik
Date: February 20, 2013, 6:47 am
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Ecasado, that's why I don't like RPI. It doesn't take into
account that we KILLED UMBC on the court. If you're measuring
the "quality" of a team with a rating, you can be sure that
margin of victory reflects how good that team is (or isn't). RPI
doesn't give a crap.
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Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
DIR By: iBOsbu
Date: February 20, 2013, 6:47 am
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--- Quote from: ecasadoSBU link ---
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> yeah umbc has a terrible ranking so playing them kills RPI
>
> RPI = 1/4(winning percentage of your team) + 2/4 (opponent's
win percentage) + 1/4 (opponents' opponents win percentage)
>
--- End Quote ---
No wonder we went down in RPI
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Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
DIR By: iBOsbu
Date: February 20, 2013, 6:51 am
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Pomeroy takes scoring margin into account without diminishing
blowouts... thats why we are so high on Pomeroy ratings.. our
last three wins were with large margin.
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Re: Ranking and Bracketology Thread
DIR By: iBOsbu
Date: February 26, 2013, 12:02 pm
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Stony Brook #19 in Mid Major top 25! Jumped 5 spots up from last
week. Go Seawolves!!!
HTML http://www.collegeinsider.com/mens-mid-major-top-25.php
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Also #1 in AE ranking by OBW.
HTML http://www.onebidwonders.com/2013/02/26/america-east-power-rankings-v14/
1. Stony Brook Seawolves (20-6, 12-2 AE, W4)
Previous Ranking: 1st
Results: W 83-39 vs. UMBC, W 69-53 at Maine
Next week: Thursday at BU, Sunday at Albany
Stony Brook still has to win one of its remaining games in order
to lock up the NIT autobid as a fall-back, but with a full week
to go in the regular season, the Seawolves have locked up their
third No. 1 seed in four years. The first two No. 1 seeds ended
with disappointment for America East’s Long Island
representatives, but something about this year feels different –
and admittedly looks different. Ten of Stony Brook’s 12
conference victories have been by double-digits. If Stony Brook
runs the table they will be the first AE champion with six
losses or fewer since ’05 Vermont. And advanced stats love – I
mean LOVE – the Seawolves. KenPom has SBU at No. 58 nationally
as of Monday, which seemed a bit high until I saw Kyle
Whelliston’s BBState ranking: No. 39. To be clear, if selection
committees agreed to use a single ranking, the 58th-best team in
the country would get into the NIT without an autobid, and the
39th-best team would be an NCAA at-large selection. We find that
overly optimistic, to say the least, but on-balance it’s hard to
argue that Stony Brook’s regular season performance shouldn’t be
ranked among the very best AE regular season resume’s of recent
years.
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