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Game 30: v Hofstra, 2/27 7pm
By: Checkmate Date: February 25, 2025, 11:46 am
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HOFSTRA (13-16, 5-11 CAA)
Last Game: Hofstra 78, Delaware 65 on 2/22/25
Last Game vs SBU: Stony Brook 80, Hofstra 75 on 2/8/25; Snoddy
career-high 27 and 12; SBU 27-12 FT advantage
Last 10 games: 3-7
Checkmate Guess the Line: Hofstra -4.5
NET Ranking: Stony Brook 343, Hofstra 223
KenPom Rating: Stony Brook 339, Hofstra 225
KenPom Prediction: Hofstra 68, Stony Brook 63
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Notables:
6-3/170 so G Cruz Davis 14.7 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 4.0 apg, 1.5 spg,
.403 3-pt FG%
6-3/190 so G Jean Aranguren 14.0 ppg, 5.4 rpg, 4.2 apg, 1.1 spg
6-8/230 gr F Michael Graham 7.6 ppg, 8.1 rpg, 1.3 bpg, .647 FG%
6-4/215 jr G Jaquan Sanders 6.2 ppg
6-5/200 sr G German Plotnikov 5.0 ppg
What's supposed to be a celebration of Long Island basketball, a
packed house, jubilation, campus buzzing, instead feels like a
funeral.
The two programs have combined for 19 wins this year, a low
water mark since the 2007-08 season, a year in which we amassed
only 19 wins. Five years prior to that was another 19-win
season, topping the 18-win total from the year before. We were
just a fledgling program then, and Hofstra was still searching a
bit after Jay Wright left for Villanova.
Hofstra is almost certainly going to be the 11 seed in the CAAs,
putting them in the dreaded Friday games at the CAAs. They trail
both Northeastern and Drexel by two games with two to play. They
can't catch Drexel head to head, and for Northeastern, they'd
need sweep and have the Huskies to lose at home to A&T and at
William & Mary to close the season. Three-team tiebreakers don't
help either – Northeastern wins the "mini-conference" and would
get the 9, Drexel the 10 and Hofstra the 11. And the likelihood
of dropping to 12 is slim, having swept Delaware (with whom
they're tied) and the Blue Hens playing at Charleston/UNCW while
Hofstra has two plum matchups. We'd need to win these next two
to get out of the 14 spot; if we win just one, we still lose the
tiebreak to A&T due to their superior strength of victory in
conference (Campbell to our Hofstra/Elon). So that's right –
Hofstra/Stony Brook round three is all but a guarantee.
But, as you know, it's more or less meaningless. (Non-COVID),
we're finishing the year with single digit wins for time since
that stretch of three such seasons from '05-08.
So because it's meaningless, let's go down a rabbit hole
instead.
I began to wonder about whether fans of other programs in our
situation are out there with pitchforks too. I mean, Louisville
went 13-19 under Mack, then endured a four- and eight-win season
under Kenny Payne, before bringing in Kelsey. Georgetown treaded
water and then drowned at the end of the Patrick Ewing era,
winning 13 games in two seasons, and then went 9-23 in Ed
Cooley's debut year. Now they're respectable. Fans have to be
delighted to be relevant. Of course, the scale of those
operations makes ours pretty JV. So looking at the CAA, there's
Monmouth, who won three regular season titles under King Rice in
the MAAC but have never made a tournament with him. His win
percentage is right around where Geno's is, so are people
clamoring for him to leave? I haven't seen anything. He was
interviewed for the job at North Carolina a few years ago so I
doubt it. Elsewhere, Hampton had seen enough of Edward Joyner
Jr. and they're off to a good start with Ivan Thomas. Same with
W&M moving off Dane Fischer in favor of Brian Earl – who was
very ordinary at Cornell before last year's 22-win year. Kevin
McGeehan's hung around at Campbell, and Billy Taylor's still too
new at Elon but at least they're moving up.
Of the coaches previously mentioned, Joyner made three NCAA
tournaments with Hampton as a member of the MEAC, and Taylor
made one at Lehigh 20 years ago.
What I'm wondering is ... should we be complaining? Or is this
just mid-major basketball for you? We endured six years of
Macarchuk. Pikiell started slow and I wonder how long he'd have
survived before we finally got over the hump. For Geno, it's two
20-win seasons, an 18-win season, an injury riddled year, the
COVID year, and now this. We had the ball in our hands with a
chance to represent the CAA in last year's NCAAs. At these other
schools, is that considered sufficient and they'd view us as
whiny malcontents from New York who should be pleased with the
success we have had?
I say nah. I'm still out. The timing for a change is right in
every way possible except for the fact that Geno, we believe,
has three years left on his deal. I'd like to think that the
lens through which SH views this thing is clear enough that he
could be on board with a reset otherwise.
I'm still rooting for the guys. Luster's the best shooter I
think I've seen here, and he's taken on more than he could ever
imagine I'd imagine. Snoddy's transformation has been awesome. I
hope O'Connor's here for three more years, hits 1,000 points,
breaks Brenton's D-I assist record, and is a four-year fan
favorite a la TSM. I hope we win on Thursday. But sadly, more
than anything, I can't help but notice the dark, ominous,
unmistakable cloud over this whole thing.
#Post#: 45287--------------------------------------------------
Re: Game 30: v Hofstra, 2/27 7pm
By: Moveitfred Date: February 25, 2025, 1:04 pm
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All just gut instinct:
I'd like to see a change and some new/different energy at the
helm, but all things considered I think Geno has done just
enough to stay (whatever extensions may or may not be in place).
From general leadership at the university and in athletics that
may say they want excellence, seems just okay is just okay. You
put the 20, 20, and 18 seasons in the "pretty good" column and
dismiss the rest as covid, new to CAA, and (this year, I don't
know...) just bad luck and I think you're left with a "he's
doing okay" which is enough around here.
In the current landscape, does anything mean more than
developing a more robust NIL? Is there interest, energy,
concrete action to do that at SBU? Right now, I'm not convinced
anything else matters much. More money will bring in better
players, and then you probably win a bunch of games no matter
the coach. Is it realistic that you can find a coach who will
work some voodoo magic consistently without a substantive NIL?
I wouldn't know enough about the mid-major landscape to know if
better is realistic for SBU men's basketball. A quick peak at
Boals and he's put up 17, 17, 25, 19, 20...and probably about
17/18 this year at Ohio. Yep, that's better and I'd suppose we'd
all like that, to always be in the hunt. Boy, but I don't
know...is that comparable or realistic here at SBU in Suffolk Co
or even among your hundreds of mid-majors across the country?
Let me end with...
Checkmate, you are the runaway MVP this season. I hope your NIL
package is everything you dreamed of! Talk about a dreadful
year, and you kept the quality previews coming. Thanks.
#Post#: 45288--------------------------------------------------
Re: Game 30: v Hofstra, 2/27 7pm
By: Chairman of the Board Date: February 25, 2025, 3:48 pm
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agreed on MVP.
#Post#: 45308--------------------------------------------------
Re: Game 30: v Hofstra, 2/27 7pm
By: OldSeawolf Date: February 27, 2025, 7:01 pm
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I think Hofstra got an extra point. They got a 3 on a short
jumper. ESPN and yahoo agree with me that score is 31-26,
whereas stadium scoreboard is 31-27. I think coaches may have
fallen asleep on this one.
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Re: Game 30: v Hofstra, 2/27 7pm
By: Chairman of the Board Date: February 27, 2025, 7:42 pm
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snoddy with 12 boards, and time to play. i see gorman in the
paint too.
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Re: Game 30: v Hofstra, 2/27 7pm
By: Checkmate Date: February 27, 2025, 7:42 pm
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Gorman not converting at the rim, my god. Playing big minutes
though.
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Re: Game 30: v Hofstra, 2/27 7pm
By: Chairman of the Board Date: February 27, 2025, 7:59 pm
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i give the staff and the team credit- we may have actually drawn
up a play or two at the end there.
nice finish guys. snoddy with a dunk to go ahead with seconds
left, and a block right after that (that was a travel btw), and
right after that two FTs to cushion the lead to 3 with only a
second left. also, 13 boards.
nice to get a win over hof for elijah.
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Re: Game 30: v Hofstra, 2/27 7pm
By: sbu1991 Date: February 27, 2025, 8:02 pm
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[quote author=Checkmate link=topic=1162.msg45311#msg45311
date=1740706942]
Gorman not converting at the rim, my god. Playing big minutes
though.
[/quote]
Good that he was competing around the rim and managed 4
rebounds. More importantly, very nice win against our local
rival. Happy for the team.
Interesting that we might see Hofstra in the 11/14 game next
week.
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Re: Game 30: v Hofstra, 2/27 7pm
By: Checkmate Date: February 27, 2025, 8:26 pm
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Beat Elon Saturday and Hofstra beats A&T and we sneak up to the
13.
Big shots from OC to keep Hofstra from building their lead and
he demonstrated poise throughout. I thought we really competed
defensively, especially Snoddy and Luster.
Some real nice minutes from Gorman. He was in the mix underneath
and pitched in offensively.
Ben Wight – monster three.
-24 in the paint and you win? Highly unusual.
You can’t complain about the effort that the guys are playing
with. They’re still invested.
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Re: Game 30: v Hofstra, 2/27 7pm
By: Accelerator Date: February 27, 2025, 8:43 pm
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At least in this godawful year we're able to sweep Hofstra. We
actually won the final 4 minutes! How about that.
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