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#Post#: 43330--------------------------------------------------
Looking ahead to 2024-25
By: Checkmate Date: March 13, 2024, 2:14 pm
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Updated 6/4/24:
G: Octave, Luster, Philip, JFrey, Onyekonwu, O'Connor, Mitchell
F: Nyarko, Snoddy, Woodard, Nahar, Gorman, PFrey
C: Wight
Open scholarships: 0?
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Initial post:
Sorry if this is "too soon", and I know we could still have the
CBI in our future, but with the transfer portal livening up, we
can at least turn one eye toward next year.
As presently constituted, this group would struggle to put the
ball in the hoop. I have to think we can identify a couple
impact transfers though; we've found some good ones. Also, it's
natural to wonder whether anyone listed above is in fact
committed to play here next year, and in some cases, if we're
committed to them. This conference tournament helped, but with
just a two-year extension, Geno's still coaching for his job.
A question I have is whether we have our starting PG on the
roster. Is it Space? Is TO a true PG and, if so, can he give us
28-30 minutes? It feels like a grad transfer PG would be a good
add.
Then with Maidoh gone we need size inside. We were hit or miss
on the boards, and think we need to reinforce that area. Or is
that Nahar? Or Gorman? Are we sure? Nahar has shown flashes, but
he played minimally in a year when we were terrible and
redshirted this year when, if he was viable, I think we could
have used him. Preface everything with "what do I know" but I
think that's telling. I don't know about Gorman as this banger
underneath but his jumper's pretty smooth from what I can tell.
Maybe a Sekunda? Or a Policelli who puts on muscle and is able
to do work inside eventually? I think we need some girth. Does
somebody like Spinoso finish up at Penn and return to LI? Does
that help us?
And then, honestly, a Roberts type. We need somebody who you can
give the ball to to go get a bucket. That was Clarke and TSM
this year, Roberts, Tykei, Yeboah, et al. Any size, ideally
somebody who isn't a turnstile defensively.
VC still has us in play for Boals' kid. That would be something.
What do you think?
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Re: Looking ahead to 2024-25
By: Checkmate Date: March 13, 2024, 2:19 pm
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Gorman's last HS game. He's #15 in blue. If you look past the
first couple minutes (eek), he looks like somebody with some
ability. They were definitely looking for him.
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ac45kx2teU
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Re: Looking ahead to 2024-25
By: sbufan Date: March 13, 2024, 3:19 pm
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I'm very nervous about losing Fitz. He'll have plenty of
opportunities to go elsewhere, likely for more money
Is Muratori even still on the team? I haven't noticed him on the
sidelines.
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Re: Looking ahead to 2024-25
By: OldSeawolf Date: March 14, 2024, 6:14 am
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Who knows at this point? Way too early, but here are some
random points from me:
- Yes, we need a bunch of guards to replace our trio, and I
think our national exposure this post-season, will get us some
opportunities in the portal for sure. And yes, we need to add a
big man (a la Maidoh). All things being equal, 2 guards and one
big man is on my Christmas wish list;
- I think Fitz would be foolish to "move up". Although his
offensive skills clearly improved this year, his defensive and
rebounding skills are mediocre at best. Would he "move up" to
play 5-10 minutes per game at a higher-level school? Or stay at
SBU, and get all the minutes he can handle? I bet on the
latter, but his stock has definitely gone up. Does NIL benefit
bench players at higher-level programs? I have no idea;
- Unless the kid is really injured bad, and can't sit on the
bench, I'm thinking that Muratori is gone. Not be on the bench
for this run? Come on. Maybe a career-ending injury. Nothing
from SBU on this, as usual. Plus someone on this board (I
forget who) talked to Heilbron about returnees (that's how we
initially found out about an extra year for Fitz and Philip),
and there was no mention of Muratori. Too bad, because I really
think he was a work in progress, worth developing at 7'3";
- I think Nahar definitely has talent from what we saw in
2022-23, and I would say that he will certainly be back, given
his bench enthusiasm all season. He can definitely shoot and we
saw some rebounding ability when he played a bit last season.
The kid really needs to bulk up though in the off-season. The
CAA is a very physical league;
- TO currently has the keys to the PG spot, but is he pissed off
that he was shut down for the most part this year due to AC
being back? Does he know that we'll be looking hard at the
portal this off-season for some guards (prob a starting grad
PG), and decide to go elsewhere? All remains to be seen. I
hope he stays, because he will definitely find some minutes, and
adds value IMO;
- Snoddy is a freekin' workhorse, and rebounder extraordinaire,
and I could see him being a flight risk for sure. However, he's
a local kid (Melville), and that may certainly keep him home.
He seemed really comfortable here, and really seemed to enjoy
himself IMO;
- In limited time, Frederick looks extremely athletic and fairly
long, but he showed no offensive game in limited minutes
(another Philip type). I say he'll be kept and will be back;
- I was very unimpressed with Space (in very limited gar-bage
time minutes). Who knows if they'll keep him or not, or if they
see something with him in practice to keep him around. I found
him to be slow and undersized, but what do I know;
- Jared Frey isn't going anywhere, and I doubt that they would
cut his younger brother, for fear of pissing Jared off, so I
surmise that both will be back;
Anyway, those are my early thoughts. Still replaying those
final 37 seconds in my head over and over again................
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Re: Looking ahead to 2024-25
By: Chairman of the Board Date: March 14, 2024, 7:31 am
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[quote author=OldSeawolf link=topic=1102.msg43341#msg43341
date=1710414888]
Who knows at this point? Way too early, but here are some
random points from me:
- Yes, we need a bunch of guards to replace our trio, and I
think our national exposure this post-season, will get us some
opportunities in the portal for sure. And yes, we need to add a
big man (a la Maidoh). All things being equal, 2 guards and one
big man is on my Christmas wish list;
- I think Fitz would be foolish to "move up". Although his
offensive skills clearly improved this year, his defensive and
rebounding skills are mediocre at best. Would he "move up" to
play 5-10 minutes per game at a higher-level school? Or stay at
SBU, and get all the minutes he can handle? I bet on the
latter, but his stock has definitely gone up. Does NIL benefit
bench players at higher-level programs? I have no idea;
- Unless the kid is really injured bad, and can't sit on the
bench, I'm thinking that Muratori is gone. Not be on the bench
for this run? Come on. Maybe a career-ending injury. Nothing
from SBU on this, as usual. Plus someone on this board (I
forget who) talked to Heilbron about returnees (that's how we
initially found out about an extra year for Fitz and Philip),
and there was no mention of Muratori. Too bad, because I really
think he was a work in progress, worth developing at 7'3";
- I think Nahar definitely has talent from what we saw in
2022-23, and I would say that he will certainly be back, given
his bench enthusiasm all season. He can definitely shoot and we
saw some rebounding ability when he played a bit last season.
The kid really needs to bulk up though in the off-season. The
CAA is a very physical league;
- TO currently has the keys to the PG spot, but is he pissed off
that he was shut down for the most part this year due to AC
being back? Does he know that we'll be looking hard at the
portal this off-season for some guards (prob a starting grad
PG), and decide to go elsewhere? All remains to be seen. I
hope he stays, because he will definitely find some minutes, and
adds value IMO;
- Snoddy is a freekin' workhorse, and rebounder extraordinaire,
and I could see him being a flight risk for sure. However, he's
a local kid (Melville), and that may certainly keep him home.
He seemed really comfortable here, and really seemed to enjoy
himself IMO;
- In limited time, Frederick looks extremely athletic and fairly
long, but he showed no offensive game in limited minutes
(another Philip type). I say he'll be kept and will be back;
- I was very unimpressed with Space (in very limited gar-bage
time minutes). Who knows if they'll keep him or not, or if they
see something with him in practice to keep him around. I found
him to be slow and undersized, but what do I know;
- Jared Frey isn't going anywhere, and I doubt that they would
cut his younger brother, for fear of pissing Jared off, so I
surmise that both will be back;
Anyway, those are my early thoughts. Still replaying those
final 37 seconds in my head over and over again................
[/quote]
this week is now a selling point for recruits- even if they
werent watching.
id also argue that losing so many seniors is also a selling
point. it opens up playing time, and patience isnt what it used
to be.
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Re: Looking ahead to 2024-25
By: Checkmate Date: March 14, 2024, 9:14 am
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Re: Muratori, I don't think Noll, Philip or Clarke traveled with
the team last year. Did they? I can't say for sure.
To me, Muratori is Alonzo Campbell or Alex Christie all over
again. Can't play at this level.
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Re: Looking ahead to 2024-25
By: OldSeawolf Date: March 14, 2024, 9:24 am
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[quote author=Checkmate link=topic=1102.msg43346#msg43346
date=1710425670]
To me, Muratori is Alonzo Campbell or Alex Christie all over
again. Can't play at this level.
[/quote]
I don't disagree, but remember how bad Petras was his first
couple of years. By his last year, with some obvious coaching,
he was serviceable, and a big body who played valuable minutes.
Muratori is a project and certainly doesn't have his bulk, but
maybe 10 minutes per game to block a few balls in the paint or
play some inside/outside ball?
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Re: Looking ahead to 2024-25
By: Moveitfred Date: March 14, 2024, 10:50 am
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[quote author=Chairman of the Board
link=topic=1102.msg43344#msg43344 date=1710419486]
[quote author=OldSeawolf link=topic=1102.msg43341#msg43341
date=1710414888]
[/quote]
this week is now a selling point for recruits- even if they
werent watching.
id also argue that losing so many seniors is also a selling
point. it opens up playing time, and patience isnt what it used
to be.
[/quote]
Agreed that there is some potential promise at this moment in
time. Rather small sample size, but Ford does have a pretty good
track record of positive leverage in the portal and bringing in
quality players. Maybe that's one of his strengths, and who's to
say he won't do it again? Unless, of course, he doesn't.
#Post#: 43354--------------------------------------------------
Re: Looking ahead to 2024-25
By: sbupatriots Date: March 15, 2024, 8:01 am
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Don't have a full understanding of how it works but I believe
TSM, Clarke, Noll and Maidoh were all NIL guys so theoretically
that opens a good amount of NIL money for Geno to use in the
portal. Assume Fitz will get a TSM level deal to stay.
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Re: Looking ahead to 2024-25
By: Curious George Date: March 15, 2024, 8:14 am
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[quote author=sbupatriots link=topic=1102.msg43354#msg43354
date=1710507687]
Don't have a full understanding of how it works but I believe
TSM, Clarke, Noll and Maidoh were all NIL guys so theoretically
that opens a good amount of NIL money for Geno to use in the
portal. Assume Fitz will get a TSM level deal to stay.
[/quote]
He's already done 6 college years, including a redshirt and
graduate season. I'm pretty sure his graduate season was also
his COVID season. If not, do you want a seventh-year senior?
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