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       Re: Athletic Facility Masterplan
       By: ry1nik Date: October 5, 2012, 7:39 am
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       I have  mixed feelings about going above 12K from a fan
       perspective. The only reason go above that would be FBS. Is
       Buffalo football in better shape because of the jump? Their
       record during the first seven years after going FBS was 10-69,
       and they still stink. Even if an FBS version of the Wolves
       doubled that number of wins (20-59), I'm not sure it would be
       worth it from a fan or a university perspective. We can stay at
       the top of the CAA for years and years, compete for a national
       championship (which would never happen at the FBS level) and
       keep the enthusiasm strong. I just can't get down with the idea
       of FBS.
       #Post#: 3256--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Athletic Facility Masterplan
       By: ecasadoSBU Date: October 5, 2012, 9:54 am
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       But we are not Buffalo. We are Stony Brook. We are not ready to
       make the jump. But I think its clear that there is big
       differences between Buffalo and Stony Brook besides location.
       Administration has to do a lot with the future of athletics. As
       long as we go step by step I'm confident we can do much better
       than Buffalo. Buffalo jumped to FBS to soon without being ready.
       Stony Brook and Albany are taking the longer way, building their
       program from the ground up (not just football, all the programs)
       and building the fan base. I think our athletic department has
       already surpassed the successes of Buffalo so...
       #Post#: 3257--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Athletic Facility Masterplan
       By: ry1nik Date: October 5, 2012, 10:10 am
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       OK e-, let's say that's true. Then the question becomes...Would
       Stony Brook fans be that much more interested in watching a game
       vs. Western Michigan or Toledo as opposed to Richmond, William
       and Mary, or New Hampshire? I'd prefer to watch a rivalry with
       those CAA teams. I'd bet many (if not most) SB fans would, too.
       Even if I were wrong, and watching a game against Bowling Green
       is somehow more compelling than one against Richmond, would it
       be sufficiently more interesting to make up for dealing with the
       hassles of traffic, parking, and lines for a 25,000 seat stadium
       than a 12,000 seat stadium? You may think so, but that's not a
       good trade-off in my book. Yes, I know it's still years off, but
       the topic came up in the forum (again) and added my two cents.
       Bigger is not always better. I think fans would rather see a
       perennial Top 15 FCS team than one that is lucky every few years
       if it gets to play in a Toilet Bowl game.
       #Post#: 3261--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Athletic Facility Masterplan
       By: Seawolf97 Date: October 5, 2012, 11:24 am
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       I think we are in the CAA for awhile so a comfortable 12k-15k
       stadium will work.  FBS will happen I'm sure but whereand when
       who knows. The FBS landscape  changes like the seasons now  and
       I wouldn't be surprised to see the football side of the Big
       East  vanish at some point. Seriously Boise St, San Diego  in
       the  B.E.? Maybe the CAA will move as conference to FBS if that
       is possible. In any event these are exciting times at SBU for
       athletics and academics lets enjoy them.
       #Post#: 3289--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Athletic Facility Masterplan
       By: Chairman of the Board Date: October 8, 2012, 7:21 am
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       [quote author=sbufan link=topic=109.msg3241#msg3241
       date=1349391456]
       My theory: Gaurino is coming over to start a massive fundraising
       campaign to expand Lavalle to FBS standards.
       [/quote]
       Kinda what i was getting at- without saying it!  This guy was
       the head of annual giving for the entire U.  Makes a statement
       then when he comes over to concentrate just on athletics.
       Also, i like that he is a long-term guy at SB (11 years) and not
       some hired gun brought in to shake things up and make a quick
       few bucks for the program.
       As for expanding LaValle- i know it was cold on Saturday, and
       know CSO doesnt have a huge draw- but weve got to sell out our
       few home games if we want to get serious about expanding
       LaValle.  I know, i know.  We need expansion for the Final
       Fours, the QF, graduation, etc.  But it would help to show the
       administration that there's an emergency- we need to expand.  8)
       I wonder if, and i say this as an outsider with no architectural
       experience, the jumbotron could be moved to lets say the corner
       (where the flags are) and build a mezzanine right over the north
       end zone.
       #Post#: 3290--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Athletic Facility Masterplan
       By: Chairman of the Board Date: October 8, 2012, 7:22 am
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       [quote author=sbufan link=topic=109.msg3252#msg3252
       date=1349420254]
       [quote author=ecasadoSBU link=topic=109.msg3250#msg3250
       date=1349413269]
       The problem that I see with LaValle is that the seating is too
       inclined. It wasn't designed to be a 25k+ stadium. If you go to
       large stadiums (I've been to a few, the most recent being
       Uconn's Rentschler Field) you realize that the seating tends to
       be more spread out but less gradient between the rows of seats.
       If you expand more than 25k, then the 3rd tier will be to high
       above the playing field.
       I think its preferable to be more spread out instead of being
       higher above ground. But I'm not architect or engineer, I'm sure
       they can make it work. I'm just basing my opinion out of what
       I've seen...
       [/quote]
       I'm no expert, but I think stronger inclines are typical
       preferred. Stadiums like Michigans that are build out rather
       than up dont have great sight lines and don't keep the sound in
       as well their taller counterparts.
       [/quote]
       Funny, ive read so many times from Mich fans how their stadium
       packs out with 110k fans, yet its quiet.  Across the way at MSU
       (tiered), different story.
       #Post#: 3525--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Athletic Facility Masterplan
       By: ecasadoSBU Date: November 2, 2012, 3:53 pm
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       well there you go. I had no idea what i was talking about...
       Just made assumptions based on large stadiums...
       #Post#: 6478--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Athletic Facility Masterplan
       By: Chairman of the Board Date: April 12, 2013, 1:24 pm
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       SB Arena
  HTML http://www.goseawolves.org/genrel/041213aaa.html
       #Post#: 6479--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Athletic Facility Masterplan
       By: ecasadoSBU Date: April 12, 2013, 4:08 pm
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       Freaking awesome. we are gonna love this. I can't wait till I
       get my season tickets for 2014. OH YEAH!!!
       p.s: there is also pictures here:
  HTML http://www.goseawolves.org/facilities/ston-10-arena.html
       CLICK ON PHOTO GALLERY:
       #Post#: 6480--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Athletic Facility Masterplan
       By: Hammertime Date: April 12, 2013, 4:48 pm
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       Next week I should be getting my season tickets for Football and
       I think getting season tickets for basketball could be in the
       cards, also !!!! O boy !!!! I gotta make more $$$ LOL..
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