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       #Post#: 1517--------------------------------------------------
       Athletic Facility Masterplan
       By: sbufan Date: February 24, 2012, 11:23 am
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       While reading through Fiore's bio on the goseawolves.org page, I
       saw that the athletic department has paid an architectural firm
       to develop a master plan to guide the future of Stony Brook's
       athletic facilities. Does anyone know what the plan looks like
       or is there any way to find out what it looks like?
       #Post#: 1545--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Athletic Facility Masterplan
       By: Seawolf97 Date: February 27, 2012, 9:11 pm
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       I'm sure there is plan most schools  use engineering firms to
       develop them . In our case even if a building  or venue is
       privately funded approval has to go through the State. I suspect
       after the basketball arena is opened some focus will be stadium
       expansion.  I also feel some type of bubble  or enclosed
       facility for tennis  might arise, maybe lights for Joe Nathan
       Field. It would be interesting  to see what comes out of this.
       #Post#: 3234--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Athletic Facility Masterplan
       By: Chairman of the Board Date: October 4, 2012, 12:18 pm
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  HTML http://www.goseawolves.org/genrel/100412aaa.html
       Rick Guarino, the head of Annual Giving, moves over into the
       Athletic Department to serve the same role.  This could be very
       good for facilities and PAWS and whatnot.
       #Post#: 3241--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Athletic Facility Masterplan
       By: sbufan Date: October 4, 2012, 5:57 pm
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       My theory: Gaurino is coming over to start a massive fundraising
       campaign to expand Lavalle to FBS standards.
       #Post#: 3242--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Athletic Facility Masterplan
       By: Seawolf97 Date: October 4, 2012, 8:18 pm
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       My feelings exactly.   I  think they might do it in steps for
       the stadium. Maybe get to 12k sooner rather than later since the
       CAA teams will draw.  Full FBS  would have to be  greater than
       at least 24k-25k.  Michie up at West Point is 41,000 according
       to  their program and is really tight quarters and not laid out
       all that well.   Our design is much better and easier to access
       so lets see what happens down the road.
       #Post#: 3245--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Athletic Facility Masterplan
       By: ecasadoSBU Date: October 4, 2012, 9:34 pm
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       I was thinking of the same. Incremental steps to expand LaValle.
       This is good for two reasons. Its more financially rewarding to
       expand it small increments and it will also keep the stadium
       atleast 50% filled so that the fans get a good perception and
       increased interest.
       I think the first step should be completing the end zone seating
       at the scoreboard end. After that they can add a second tier to
       the "away side" just like the home side. That would make it 16k
       or so... Another expansion to "the Red Zone" endzone can be done
       to make the stadium reach a max capacity of 18-20k....
       I'm assuming the largest capacity LaValle was designed for was
       20k or so... So I don't expect it to pass that
       #Post#: 3246--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Athletic Facility Masterplan
       By: Redwyn Date: October 4, 2012, 10:15 pm
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       [quote author=ecasadoSBU link=topic=109.msg3245#msg3245
       date=1349404478]
       I was thinking of the same. Incremental steps to expand LaValle.
       This is good for two reasons. Its more financially rewarding to
       expand it small increments and it will also keep the stadium
       atleast 50% filled so that the fans get a good perception and
       increased interest.
       I think the first step should be completing the end zone seating
       at the scoreboard end. After that they can add a second tier to
       the "away side" just like the home side. That would make it 16k
       or so... Another expansion to "the Red Zone" endzone can be done
       to make the stadium reach a max capacity of 18-20k....
       I'm assuming the largest capacity LaValle was designed for was
       20k or so... So I don't expect it to pass that
       [/quote][quote author=ecasadoSBU link=topic=109.msg3245#msg3245
       date=1349404478]
       I was thinking of the same. Incremental steps to expand LaValle.
       This is good for two reasons. Its more financially rewarding to
       expand it small increments and it will also keep the stadium
       atleast 50% filled so that the fans get a good perception and
       increased interest.
       I think the first step should be completing the end zone seating
       at the scoreboard end. After that they can add a second tier to
       the "away side" just like the home side. That would make it 16k
       or so... Another expansion to "the Red Zone" endzone can be done
       to make the stadium reach a max capacity of 18-20k....
       I'm assuming the largest capacity LaValle was designed for was
       20k or so... So I don't expect it to pass that
       [/quote]
       LaValle was built to be expandable, but there was no authentic
       "maximum capacity" because the secondary foundations weren't
       built to optimize capacity.
       Based on the quandry Villanova got in when attempting to join
       the Big East two years ago, LaValle would have to expand to
       somewhere between 40-50K in order to get a serious look from the
       Big East (or Big East remnant conference). To get into the MAC,
       we'd be fine with 25-30K. Most of the Michigan programs average
       below 20K, so we'd easily fit in.
       Hard to tell what the ceiling of that stadium could be, but the
       "away side" has a LOT of back room that may be able to
       accommodate 3 tiers. Filling the corners with 2 stages and
       finishing the scoreboard side may get us up to 40K or so. Hard
       to sincerely know for sure. Could do some real fun stuff
       architecturally with it for sure.
       #Post#: 3250--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Athletic Facility Masterplan
       By: ecasadoSBU Date: October 5, 2012, 12:01 am
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       The problem that I see with LaValle is that the seating is too
       inclined. It wasn't designed to be a 25k+ stadium. If you go to
       large stadiums (I've been to a few, the most recent being
       Uconn's Rentschler Field) you realize that the seating tends to
       be more spread out but less gradient between the rows of seats.
       If you expand more than 25k, then the 3rd tier will be to high
       above the playing field.
       I think its preferable to be more spread out instead of being
       higher above ground. But I'm not architect or engineer, I'm sure
       they can make it work. I'm just basing my opinion out of what
       I've seen...
       #Post#: 3252--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Athletic Facility Masterplan
       By: sbufan Date: October 5, 2012, 1:57 am
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       [quote author=ecasadoSBU link=topic=109.msg3250#msg3250
       date=1349413269]
       The problem that I see with LaValle is that the seating is too
       inclined. It wasn't designed to be a 25k+ stadium. If you go to
       large stadiums (I've been to a few, the most recent being
       Uconn's Rentschler Field) you realize that the seating tends to
       be more spread out but less gradient between the rows of seats.
       If you expand more than 25k, then the 3rd tier will be to high
       above the playing field.
       I think its preferable to be more spread out instead of being
       higher above ground. But I'm not architect or engineer, I'm sure
       they can make it work. I'm just basing my opinion out of what
       I've seen...
       [/quote]
       I'm no expert, but I think stronger inclines are typical
       preferred. Stadiums like Michigans that are build out rather
       than up dont have great sight lines and don't keep the sound in
       as well their taller counterparts.
       #Post#: 3253--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Athletic Facility Masterplan
       By: ecasadoSBU Date: October 5, 2012, 4:58 am
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       Ah. Well that Might be the case. I don't know to be honest. I
       was just thinking to myself and reached that conclusion based on
       large stadiums I've seen.
       If you are correct, then that's awesome!
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