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Re: Game 22: at Hofstra, 2/1 7pm
By: ry1nik Date: February 2, 2024, 4:39 am
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It seems almost certain Geno has reached his ceiling as a coach.
Either the program stays at this level or starts creeping down
and it becomes another Priore situation.
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Re: Game 22: at Hofstra, 2/1 7pm
By: sbufan Date: February 2, 2024, 8:32 am
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This one hurt
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Re: Game 22: at Hofstra, 2/1 7pm
By: Checkmate Date: February 2, 2024, 8:36 am
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[quote author=ry1nik link=topic=1085.msg42632#msg42632
date=1706870352]
It seems almost certain Geno has reached his ceiling as a coach.
Either the program stays at this level or starts creeping down
and it becomes another Priore situation.
[/quote]
This is a salient point and why I'm in favor of moving in
another direction. If we're fine with being "fine", then Geno
checks that box. But if we're looking to looking to take it up a
notch, there are high-level assistants with name recognition and
charisma, maybe even ascending HCs at lower levels, who can do
that. Of course, it's easy to say all this when I'm not in the
locker room and am not the one paying the bills. An opening in
basketball would undoubtedly attract more qualified suitors than
the football opening.
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Re: Game 22: at Hofstra, 2/1 7pm
By: Knicksbu99 Date: February 2, 2024, 11:09 am
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Gut punch loss the type of loss that can lead the season to
spiral. Hopefully this is the last Geno squad so he doesn’t have
to waste anymore talent.
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Re: Game 22: at Hofstra, 2/1 7pm
By: Accelerator Date: February 2, 2024, 11:54 am
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I guess the downside of firing a competent but average coach
like Geno because he wasn't meeting expectations is that you
could end up like Buffalo, especially since New York state's
hampering of college athletics well documented. Jeez, Buffalo is
*bad bad* now. 343/362 in KenPom, 348 in NET, 2-18 record, and
only one of those is a D1 win. Jeff Boals and Ohio just
destroyed them 91-70. But that shouldn't scare us from making a
move, because the odds that it goes as disastrously as it has
for them is not that high.
#Post#: 42637--------------------------------------------------
Re: Game 22: at Hofstra, 2/1 7pm
By: guest441 Date: February 2, 2024, 12:03 pm
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[quote author=Checkmate link=topic=1085.msg42634#msg42634
date=1706884607]
[quote author=ry1nik link=topic=1085.msg42632#msg42632
date=1706870352]
It seems almost certain Geno has reached his ceiling as a coach.
Either the program stays at this level or starts creeping down
and it becomes another Priore situation.
[/quote]
This is a salient point and why I'm in favor of moving in
another direction. If we're fine with being "fine", then Geno
checks that box. But if we're looking to looking to take it up a
notch, there are high-level assistants with name recognition and
charisma, maybe even ascending HCs at lower levels, who can do
that. Of course, it's easy to say all this when I'm not in the
locker room and am not the one paying the bills. An opening in
basketball would undoubtedly attract more qualified suitors than
the football opening.
[/quote]
we have to get used to being middle of the pack and not anything
more with geno and shawn heilbron. geno has been extended and
heilbron didnt announce it. the kid from the statesmen tweeted
it last night that heilbron confirmed the extention like i been
saying.
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Re: Game 22: at Hofstra, 2/1 7pm
By: Accelerator Date: February 2, 2024, 12:20 pm
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HTML https://twitter.com/MikeAnderson_15/status/1753219401380167760
Wow, that's right.
I have been fed up with Heilbron's cowardice for years and this
is just another pathetic example. Too scared to announce it on
your own or through the team's pages so you use a student with
100 followers as your mouthpiece (not a dig at the reporter at
all, props to him for getting the info out there, but obviously
the kid isn't going to have as many eyes on him as the actual
team pages), using him as a test dummy to gauge the reaction
from the fanbase instead of taking the heat yourself. Were we
always this tight-lipped before Heilbron came, I don't remember
at this point.
#Post#: 42640--------------------------------------------------
Re: Game 22: at Hofstra, 2/1 7pm
By: sbu1991 Date: February 2, 2024, 1:57 pm
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[quote author=factorykitten link=topic=1085.msg42637#msg42637
date=1706897031]
[quote author=Checkmate link=topic=1085.msg42634#msg42634
date=1706884607]
[quote author=ry1nik link=topic=1085.msg42632#msg42632
date=1706870352]
It seems almost certain Geno has reached his ceiling as a coach.
Either the program stays at this level or starts creeping down
and it becomes another Priore situation.
[/quote]
This is a salient point and why I'm in favor of moving in
another direction. If we're fine with being "fine", then Geno
checks that box. But if we're looking to looking to take it up a
notch, there are high-level assistants with name recognition and
charisma, maybe even ascending HCs at lower levels, who can do
that. Of course, it's easy to say all this when I'm not in the
locker room and am not the one paying the bills. An opening in
basketball would undoubtedly attract more qualified suitors than
the football opening.
[/quote]
we have to get used to being middle of the pack and not anything
more with geno and shawn heilbron. geno has been extended and
heilbron didnt announce it. the kid from the statesmen tweeted
it last night that heilbron confirmed the extention like i been
saying.
[/quote]
Middle of the pack, at best. The current team may be the best
since Warney, loaded with 5th year seniors and grad transfers
and the best Geno can deliver is middle of the pack. What's
gonna happen next year when Geno uses the rebuilding excuse at
every press conference?
#Post#: 42650--------------------------------------------------
Re: Game 22: at Hofstra, 2/1 7pm
By: Chairman of the Board Date: February 2, 2024, 6:29 pm
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[quote author=Accelerator link=topic=1085.msg42636#msg42636
date=1706896469]
I guess the downside of firing a competent but average coach
like Geno because he wasn't meeting expectations is that you
could end up like Buffalo, especially since New York state's
hampering of college athletics well documented. Jeez, Buffalo is
*bad bad* now. 343/362 in KenPom, 348 in NET, 2-18 record, and
only one of those is a D1 win. Jeff Boals and Ohio just
destroyed them 91-70. But that shouldn't scare us from making a
move, because the odds that it goes as disastrously as it has
for them is not that high.
[/quote]
making a move, as in, out of the state of new york?
::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Re: Game 22: at Hofstra, 2/1 7pm
By: ry1nik Date: February 3, 2024, 6:42 am
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[quote author=Accelerator link=topic=1085.msg42638#msg42638
date=1706898047]
HTML https://twitter.com/MikeAnderson_15/status/1753219401380167760
Wow, that's right.
I have been fed up with Heilbron's cowardice for years and this
is just another pathetic example. Too scared to announce it on
your own or through the team's pages so you use a student with
100 followers as your mouthpiece (not a dig at the reporter at
all, props to him for getting the info out there, but obviously
the kid isn't going to have as many eyes on him as the actual
team pages), using him as a test dummy to gauge the reaction
from the fanbase instead of taking the heat yourself. Were we
always this tight-lipped before Heilbron came, I don't remember
at this point.
[/quote]
It’s like Heilbron doesn’t want to deal with the work it takes
to hire a new coach. It’s easier to simply extend them.
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