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       #Post#: 42632--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Game 22: at Hofstra, 2/1 7pm
   DIR By: ry1nik
       Date: February 2, 2024, 4:39 am
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       It seems almost certain Geno has reached his ceiling as a coach.
       Either the program stays at this level or starts creeping down
       and it becomes another Priore situation.
       #Post#: 42633--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Game 22: at Hofstra, 2/1 7pm
   DIR By: sbufan
       Date: February 2, 2024, 8:32 am
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       This one hurt
       #Post#: 42634--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Game 22: at Hofstra, 2/1 7pm
   DIR By: Checkmate
       Date: February 2, 2024, 8:36 am
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       --- Quote from: ry1nik link ---
       >
       > It seems almost certain Geno has reached his ceiling as a
       coach. Either the program stays at this level or starts creeping
       down and it becomes another Priore situation.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       This is a salient point and why I'm in favor of moving in
       another direction. If we're fine with being "fine", then Geno
       checks that box. But if we're looking to looking to take it up a
       notch, there are high-level assistants with name recognition and
       charisma, maybe even ascending HCs at lower levels, who can do
       that. Of course, it's easy to say all this when I'm not in the
       locker room and am not the one paying the bills. An opening in
       basketball would undoubtedly attract more qualified suitors than
       the football opening.
       #Post#: 42635--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Game 22: at Hofstra, 2/1 7pm
   DIR By: Knicksbu99
       Date: February 2, 2024, 11:09 am
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       Gut punch loss the type of loss that can lead the season to
       spiral. Hopefully this is the last Geno squad so he doesn’t have
       to waste anymore talent.
       #Post#: 42636--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Game 22: at Hofstra, 2/1 7pm
   DIR By: Accelerator
       Date: February 2, 2024, 11:54 am
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       I guess the downside of firing a competent but average coach
       like Geno because he wasn't meeting expectations is that you
       could end up like Buffalo, especially since New York state's
       hampering of college athletics well documented. Jeez, Buffalo is
       *bad bad* now. 343/362 in KenPom, 348 in NET, 2-18 record, and
       only one of those is a D1 win. Jeff Boals and Ohio just
       destroyed them 91-70. But that shouldn't scare us from making a
       move, because the odds that it goes as disastrously as it has
       for them is not that high.
       #Post#: 42637--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Game 22: at Hofstra, 2/1 7pm
   DIR By: guest441
       Date: February 2, 2024, 12:03 pm
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       --- Quote from: Checkmate link ---
       >
       > [quote author=ry1nik link=topic=1085.msg42632#msg42632
       date=1706870352]
       > It seems almost certain Geno has reached his ceiling as a
       coach. Either the program stays at this level or starts creeping
       down and it becomes another Priore situation.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       This is a salient point and why I'm in favor of moving in
       another direction. If we're fine with being "fine", then Geno
       checks that box. But if we're looking to looking to take it up a
       notch, there are high-level assistants with name recognition and
       charisma, maybe even ascending HCs at lower levels, who can do
       that. Of course, it's easy to say all this when I'm not in the
       locker room and am not the one paying the bills. An opening in
       basketball would undoubtedly attract more qualified suitors than
       the football opening.
       [/quote]
       we have to get used to being middle of the pack and not anything
       more with geno and shawn heilbron. geno has been extended and
       heilbron didnt announce it. the kid from the statesmen tweeted
       it last night that heilbron confirmed the extention like i been
       saying.
       #Post#: 42638--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Game 22: at Hofstra, 2/1 7pm
   DIR By: Accelerator
       Date: February 2, 2024, 12:20 pm
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  HTML https://twitter.com/MikeAnderson_15/status/1753219401380167760
       
       Wow, that's right.
       I have been fed up with Heilbron's cowardice for years and this
       is just another pathetic example. Too scared to announce it on
       your own or through the team's pages so you use a student with
       100 followers as your mouthpiece (not a dig at the reporter at
       all, props to him for getting the info out there, but obviously
       the kid isn't going to have as many eyes on him as the actual
       team pages), using him as a test dummy to gauge the reaction
       from the fanbase instead of taking the heat yourself. Were we
       always this tight-lipped before Heilbron came, I don't remember
       at this point.
       #Post#: 42640--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Game 22: at Hofstra, 2/1 7pm
   DIR By: sbu1991
       Date: February 2, 2024, 1:57 pm
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       --- Quote from: factorykitten link ---
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       > [quote author=Checkmate link=topic=1085.msg42634#msg42634
       date=1706884607]
       > [quote author=ry1nik link=topic=1085.msg42632#msg42632
       date=1706870352]
       > It seems almost certain Geno has reached his ceiling as a
       coach. Either the program stays at this level or starts creeping
       down and it becomes another Priore situation.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       This is a salient point and why I'm in favor of moving in
       another direction. If we're fine with being "fine", then Geno
       checks that box. But if we're looking to looking to take it up a
       notch, there are high-level assistants with name recognition and
       charisma, maybe even ascending HCs at lower levels, who can do
       that. Of course, it's easy to say all this when I'm not in the
       locker room and am not the one paying the bills. An opening in
       basketball would undoubtedly attract more qualified suitors than
       the football opening.
       [/quote]
       we have to get used to being middle of the pack and not anything
       more with geno and shawn heilbron. geno has been extended and
       heilbron didnt announce it. the kid from the statesmen tweeted
       it last night that heilbron confirmed the extention like i been
       saying.
       [/quote]
       Middle of the pack, at best. The current team may be the best
       since Warney, loaded with 5th year seniors and grad transfers
       and the best Geno can deliver is middle of the pack. What's
       gonna happen next year when Geno uses the rebuilding excuse at
       every press conference?
       #Post#: 42650--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Game 22: at Hofstra, 2/1 7pm
   DIR By: Chairman of the Board
       Date: February 2, 2024, 6:29 pm
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       --- Quote from: Accelerator link ---
       >
       > I guess the downside of firing a competent but average coach
       like Geno because he wasn't meeting expectations is that you
       could end up like Buffalo, especially since New York state's
       hampering of college athletics well documented. Jeez, Buffalo is
       *bad bad* now. 343/362 in KenPom, 348 in NET, 2-18 record, and
       only one of those is a D1 win. Jeff Boals and Ohio just
       destroyed them 91-70. But that shouldn't scare us from making a
       move, because the odds that it goes as disastrously as it has
       for them is not that high.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       making a move, as in, out of the state of new york?
       ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
       #Post#: 42652--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Game 22: at Hofstra, 2/1 7pm
   DIR By: ry1nik
       Date: February 3, 2024, 6:42 am
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       --- Quote from: Accelerator link ---
       >
       >
  HTML https://twitter.com/MikeAnderson_15/status/1753219401380167760
       >
       > Wow, that's right.
       >
       > I have been fed up with Heilbron's cowardice for years and
       this is just another pathetic example. Too scared to announce it
       on your own or through the team's pages so you use a student
       with 100 followers as your mouthpiece (not a dig at the reporter
       at all, props to him for getting the info out there, but
       obviously the kid isn't going to have as many eyes on him as the
       actual team pages), using him as a test dummy to gauge the
       reaction from the fanbase instead of taking the heat yourself.
       Were we always this tight-lipped before Heilbron came, I don't
       remember at this point.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       It’s like Heilbron doesn’t want to deal with the work it takes
       to hire a new coach. It’s easier to simply extend them.
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