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       #Post#: 40529--------------------------------------------------
       When is enough ENOUGH???
       By: Unchained Date: September 24, 2023, 11:15 am
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       When is it going to come to a point where enough is enough?? The
       loses are mounting, moral is tanking and the raises and
       extensions just keep coming. This ENTIRE coaching staff has no
       care for this program, it's very apparent. Hatch is the most
       arrogant of them all. Players are going to be FLOODING the
       portal to get away from this school that has NO care for their
       future. They all feel and know they made a huge mistake by
       coming here.  This school is literally the poster child of a
       socialist society.  The athletic website is so outdated. The
       energy is so depleted it's a vacuum at this point. So when is
       enough, enough???
       #Post#: 40531--------------------------------------------------
       Re: When is enough ENOUGH???
       By: guest441 Date: September 24, 2023, 12:21 pm
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       your right. but no one cares since theres no real fan base and
       no real media coverage so they know they can get away with it.
       How does Newsday not write an entire story about sneaky contract
       extensions for a losing coach? No one cares so it happens.
       contact the presidents office and tell her how you feel and why
       you cant give support to a program where no one seems to care
       about results on the field. We are the laughing stock of college
       football not just the CAA. 10 years ago the program had
       excitement with what was going on now look at it the past six
       years. and it doesnt matter because SH and the coach have two
       years left.
       #Post#: 40532--------------------------------------------------
       Re: When is enough ENOUGH???
       By: Unchained Date: September 24, 2023, 1:45 pm
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       Well Newsday has no credit as a worthy paper. There's tons of
       misspelled words and the grammar is something else altogether
       lol. They are part of the LI/NY problem/ swamp. I personally
       witnessed them interview a person on the street and edited the
       video to make this person sound like a complete bigot all for
       ratings. They will do the same for Stonycrook. There just has to
       be a way to save this program and get these clowns packing. The
       ones REALLY losing are the Athletes, that's what has to be
       remembered here.
       #Post#: 40533--------------------------------------------------
       Re: When is enough ENOUGH???
       By: Tml Date: September 24, 2023, 1:45 pm
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       Improving academically though.  Pretty much top 5 college or Uni
       in NY (not including West Point).  So there’s that.
       Here is a telling question to measure Heilbron’s performance.
       Has any team or sport at SB improved during his tenure?  I can’t
       think of one.  How many have declined? BB, FB, baseball.
       #Post#: 40534--------------------------------------------------
       Re: When is enough ENOUGH???
       By: Unchained Date: September 24, 2023, 3:05 pm
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       [quote author=Tml link=topic=1033.msg40533#msg40533
       date=1695581142]
       Improving academically though.  Pretty much top 5 college or Uni
       in NY (not including West Point).  So there’s that.
       Here is a telling question to measure Heilbron’s performance.
       Has any team or sport at SB improved during his tenure?  I can’t
       think of one.  How many have declined? BB, FB, baseball.
       [/quote]
       But that is exactly it. All they care about is academics. Now
       I'm not saying that's not important, but it would be nice if
       such a successful academic university can have as much emphasis
       on their Athletic's. Look how quick it was for the liberal
       President to post a notice about the recent academic recognition
       and I've yet to see her say ANYTHING in regards to any of their
       sports teams. I could be wrong but silence speaks volumes.
       #Post#: 40535--------------------------------------------------
       Re: When is enough ENOUGH???
       By: Accelerator Date: September 24, 2023, 4:10 pm
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       I recall someone here saying that the president is upset with
       athletics but is waiting until after she did some academic
       improvements first to focus on them. We just had our big
       academic achievement with the US News movement, so time's
       ticking Maurie. We can get Jim Simons to give us $500 million
       but not an extra small donation to get rid of Heilbron and
       Priore?
       #Post#: 40536--------------------------------------------------
       Re: When is enough ENOUGH???
       By: Tml Date: September 24, 2023, 5:12 pm
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       Well, yeah.  Academics is the central objective of any Uni.  I
       think Stony Brook is the best academic school in them CAA, on
       par with or better than W&M.
       My point was that Heilbron has simply failed by any standard.
       SB is not better in any sport, since he became AD.  Why did
       Fiore succeeed where Heilbron failed?
       #Post#: 40537--------------------------------------------------
       Re: When is enough ENOUGH???
       By: ecasadoSBU Date: September 24, 2023, 5:51 pm
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       [quote author=Unchained link=topic=1033.msg40529#msg40529
       date=1695572141]
       When is it going to come to a point where enough is enough?? The
       loses are mounting, moral is tanking and the raises and
       extensions just keep coming. This ENTIRE coaching staff has no
       care for this program, it's very apparent. Hatch is the most
       arrogant of them all. Players are going to be FLOODING the
       portal to get away from this school that has NO care for their
       future. They all feel and know they made a huge mistake by
       coming here.  This school is literally the poster child of a
       socialist society.  The athletic website is so outdated. The
       energy is so depleted it's a vacuum at this point. So when is
       enough, enough???
       [/quote]
       Its been enough for a long time. It just seems like the U has no
       interest in improving the quality of athletics. Its a freaking
       shame.
       A USNWR Top 58 National University and the State Flagship cannot
       figure out how to field a decent enough program to win at the
       CAA level
       FIRE COACH PRIORE!!!! FIRE HELBRON!!!!!! FIRE EVERYONE DARN IT!
       Start fresh!
       #Post#: 40539--------------------------------------------------
       Re: When is enough ENOUGH???
       By: Unchained Date: September 24, 2023, 8:59 pm
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       [quote author=ecasadoSBU link=topic=1033.msg40537#msg40537
       date=1695595872]
       [quote author=Unchained link=topic=1033.msg40529#msg40529
       date=1695572141]
       When is it going to come to a point where enough is enough?? The
       loses are mounting, moral is tanking and the raises and
       extensions just keep coming. This ENTIRE coaching staff has no
       care for this program, it's very apparent. Hatch is the most
       arrogant of them all. Players are going to be FLOODING the
       portal to get away from this school that has NO care for their
       future. They all feel and know they made a huge mistake by
       coming here.  This school is literally the poster child of a
       socialist society.  The athletic website is so outdated. The
       energy is so depleted it's a vacuum at this point. So when is
       enough, enough???
       [/quote]
       Its been enough for a long time. It just seems like the U has no
       interest in improving the quality of athletics. Its a freaking
       shame.
       A USNWR Top 58 National University and the State Flagship cannot
       figure out how to field a decent enough program to win at the
       CAA level
       FIRE COACH PRIORE!!!! FIRE HELBRON!!!!!! FIRE EVERYONE DARN IT!
       Start fresh!
       [/quote] That's EXACTLY what needs to be done FIRE them all at
       this point. The infection is too deep and they all need to be
       cut out. The problem is who comes in and has the ability to hit
       the ground running with their own team. I'm talking all position
       coaches and trainers.
       #Post#: 40549--------------------------------------------------
       Re: When is enough ENOUGH???
       By: Campi47 Date: September 25, 2023, 6:42 pm
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       I don’t think Helbron is going anywhere he gave the Women
       Basketball Coach an extension to 2028 today
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