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       #Post#: 39957--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2024 SBU Recruiting 
       By: Campi47 Date: July 2, 2023, 11:54 am
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       The final roster usually doesn’t get put up until July-August
       time frame
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       Re: 2024 SBU Recruiting 
       By: Hammertime Date: July 7, 2023, 12:12 pm
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       Re: 2024 SBU Recruiting 
       By: Campi47 Date: July 7, 2023, 7:51 pm
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       Add to that 8 or 9 HS Scholarship Players and I believe 18 PWO’s
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       Re: 2024 SBU Recruiting 
       By: Hammertime Date: July 8, 2023, 5:10 am
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       [quote author=Campi47 link=topic=1017.msg39967#msg39967
       date=1688777468]
       Add to that 8 or 9 HS Scholarship Players and I believe 18 PWO’s
       [/quote]
       Recruiting good athletes wasn't really the main problem with SBU
       football. The problem always lies with quality coaches. Chucky
       Cheese is NOT a good college coach, and he doesn't have what it
       takes to take these good athletes and make them great athletes.
       The only way to stay competitive in the upper-tier FCS is to
       have really good college coaches who can groom kids into being
       great football players.
       After years, and essentially two decades of coach P, SBU has
       proven to us they don't care about winning. It really is all a
       facade. Just to say, hey, were are SBU and we are also a D1
       school. Well, who cares if you are a D! or D3 school? If your
       sports program is not competitive enough to be nationally
       recognized. then why bother? Take that money and put it into
       science, math, or something else. Don't waste athletes' time
       with false promises of winning the big game. Most
       Student-athletes choose a school to play in their prospective
       sport of choice, To be possibly nationally recognized, and to
       maybe make a career out of sports with the hopes of making money
       doing what they love. And that is winning.
       SBU is not known for its athletics, but more for its education.
       I believe they should just leave it at that. Follow Hartford's
       lead. They gave up D1 sports, and Hofstra abandoned Football. It
       is okay to throw the towel in if you can't be successful at
       something.
       #Post#: 39969--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2024 SBU Recruiting 
       By: ry1nik Date: July 8, 2023, 10:59 am
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       I tend to agree. Depending on how much money the school is
       losing from having football, put that towards academics, student
       life, or advertising instead.
       #Post#: 39978--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2024 SBU Recruiting 
       By: guest441 Date: July 10, 2023, 8:04 pm
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       [quote author=Hammertime link=topic=1017.msg39968#msg39968
       date=1688811054]
       [quote author=Campi47 link=topic=1017.msg39967#msg39967
       date=1688777468]
       Add to that 8 or 9 HS Scholarship Players and I believe 18 PWO’s
       [/quote]
       Recruiting good athletes wasn't really the main problem with SBU
       football. The problem always lies with quality coaches. Chucky
       Cheese is NOT a good college coach, and he doesn't have what it
       takes to take these good athletes and make them great athletes.
       The only way to stay competitive in the upper-tier FCS is to
       have really good college coaches who can groom kids into being
       great football players.
       After years, and essentially two decades of coach P, SBU has
       proven to us they don't care about winning. It really is all a
       facade. Just to say, hey, were are SBU and we are also a D1
       school. Well, who cares if you are a D! or D3 school? If your
       sports program is not competitive enough to be nationally
       recognized. then why bother? Take that money and put it into
       science, math, or something else. Don't waste athletes' time
       with false promises of winning the big game. Most
       Student-athletes choose a school to play in their prospective
       sport of choice, To be possibly nationally recognized, and to
       maybe make a career out of sports with the hopes of making money
       doing what they love. And that is winning.
       SBU is not known for its athletics, but more for its education.
       I believe they should just leave it at that. Follow Hartford's
       lead. They gave up D1 sports, and Hofstra abandoned Football. It
       is okay to throw the towel in if you can't be successful at
       something.
       [/quote]
       Five years of empty stadium and arena. Theres a lot of people
       who say they should drop football and focus on basketball where
       the real money is. Since we havent heard anything and we're
       almost halfway through july I think its safe to assume Heilbron
       has been secretly extended for two or three years. its a dam
       shame. What could have been at SBU.
       #Post#: 39979--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2024 SBU Recruiting 
       By: Campi47 Date: July 10, 2023, 9:42 pm
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       If anyone is interested on Saturday July 29 SBU is hosting their
       7 on 7 on campus. There will be around 24 HS Teams participating
       and they hail from LI and the 5 Boroughs
       With us in July official offers can now go out in writing. The
       reason this is important is how potential recruits see the SBU
       Football Program. If they feel that the program is in good hands
       then it will be an excellent class, however if they feel the
       program is not good then the 2024 class will be mediocre at best
       #Post#: 39980--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2024 SBU Recruiting 
       By: Hammertime Date: July 11, 2023, 6:56 am
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       [quote author=factorykitten link=topic=1017.msg39978#msg39978
       date=1689037492]
       [quote author=Hammertime link=topic=1017.msg39968#msg39968
       date=1688811054]
       [quote author=Campi47 link=topic=1017.msg39967#msg39967
       date=1688777468]
       Add to that 8 or 9 HS Scholarship Players and I believe 18 PWO’s
       [/quote]
       Recruiting good athletes wasn't really the main problem with SBU
       football. The problem always lies with quality coaches. Chucky
       Cheese is NOT a good college coach, and he doesn't have what it
       takes to take these good athletes and make them great athletes.
       The only way to stay competitive in the upper-tier FCS is to
       have really good college coaches who can groom kids into being
       great football players.
       After years, and essentially two decades of coach P, SBU has
       proven to us they don't care about winning. It really is all a
       facade. Just to say, hey, were are SBU and we are also a D1
       school. Well, who cares if you are a D! or D3 school? If your
       sports program is not competitive enough to be nationally
       recognized. then why bother? Take that money and put it into
       science, math, or something else. Don't waste athletes' time
       with false promises of winning the big game. Most
       Student-athletes choose a school to play in their prospective
       sport of choice, To be possibly nationally recognized, and to
       maybe make a career out of sports with the hopes of making money
       doing what they love. And that is winning.
       SBU is not known for its athletics, but more for its education.
       I believe they should just leave it at that. Follow Hartford's
       lead. They gave up D1 sports, and Hofstra abandoned Football. It
       is okay to throw the towel in if you can't be successful at
       something.
       [/quote]
       Five years of empty stadium and arena. Theres a lot of people
       who say they should drop football and focus on basketball where
       the real money is. Since we havent heard anything and we're
       almost halfway through july I think its safe to assume Heilbron
       has been secretly extended for two or three years. its a dam
       shame. What could have been at SBU.
       [/quote]
       I'd venture to say Heilbron's contract is for another 5 years.
       He fits right into the SUNY system well. All he needs to do is
       to continue with his BS talk of being great every year and say
       yes to the bigwigs up in Albany. Dont buck the trend and think
       outside the WOKE box.. If you do all that, you'll be making
       350,000 a year as AD here for life, and don't worry about W and
       L. That doesn't matter. What does matter these days is. You
       don't piss anybody off. You make sure Hazing never goes on in
       the locker room. You say yes to the President about everything.
       Do your weekly blog online and talk about how great the
       athletics department is doing, and the great direction it is
       headed. Do all that and SBU is your home. Enjoy..
       #Post#: 39981--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2024 SBU Recruiting 
       By: guest441 Date: July 11, 2023, 9:07 am
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       Enjoy an empty stadium and arena with tiny ticket sales.
       #Post#: 39982--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2024 SBU Recruiting 
       By: NoVA_Seawolf Date: July 11, 2023, 9:53 pm
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       [quote author=factorykitten link=topic=1017.msg39981#msg39981
       date=1689084465]
       Enjoy an empty stadium and arena with tiny ticket sales.
       [/quote]
       Exactly. I don't give two F**ks about this program anymore.
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