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#Post#: 527--------------------------------------------------
Arrow of Death
By: Xav Date: June 29, 2019, 7:19 pm
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Anyone who has played an AA knows that right now and probably
forever, the Arrow of Death ability is pretty lack luster. It
is a one time per rest ability, and the DC is fairly low. We
are thinking on changing the DC for this ability to-
Arrow of Death = 10 + DEX Modifier + AA Level
So that would put the DC somewhere in the 40's along with
everything else that is highly invested in the DC's of their
Spells and what have you. One thought of my own that I'd
actually like to see is that even if you save vs the DC you take
lets say AA level x 1d6 damage.
List your thoughts, comments and suggestions.
#Post#: 528--------------------------------------------------
Re: Arrow of Death
By: SuspiciousActivity Date: June 29, 2019, 7:43 pm
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I like this idea. Vanilla Arrow of Death is disappointing. I
fully support using the Dex modifier as well. I may not be 100%
accurate on this - apparently, there are builds where players
start out with wizard, then take levels in Monk or Ranger. Once
their Wisdom score is high enough, they take the feat, Zen
Archery, to replace their Dex for attacks.
I think that having the DC calculated by the Dex modifier will
help mitigate dipping and make AA's worth their salt.
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Re: Arrow of Death
By: Genesis Date: June 29, 2019, 7:43 pm
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It would probably have to be WIS modifier for those with Zen
Archery. Both DEX and WIS archers are valid.
#Post#: 530--------------------------------------------------
Re: Arrow of Death
By: ToraTora Date: June 30, 2019, 2:54 pm
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Why DeX at all though. Shouldn't it be the casting trait of
their arcane class?
#Post#: 531--------------------------------------------------
Re: Arrow of Death
By: Zilvai Date: June 30, 2019, 4:48 pm
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You could easily reach 50+ on an instant kill, unsaveable arrow
with that. I find that particularly high. I know I'd get easily
1-shot by it, as would most classes that do not have access to
high Fort.
Do keep in mind that this is a level 30 server and we can only
have 'round about +20 to all saves, due to NWN's hard cap on it
from buffs. That means classes that can reach an unbuffed save
of 18ish would at most have 38 fort save that can't go any
higher no matter what you do.
In short, anyone not running a high cha paladin build will end
up, when fully geared, with no higher then 33-42 in saves.
#Post#: 535--------------------------------------------------
Re: Arrow of Death
By: Dirac Date: June 30, 2019, 9:14 pm
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Given the formula:
Arrow of Death = 10 + DEX Modifier + AA Level
- Maximum Amount of AA levels is 20.
- If you Epic Weapon Focus: Longbow and the rest Great
Dexterity, you can end with about 34 Dexterity
- +6 to Dexterity Modifier from buffing/Gear
Total Dexterity Modifier is around +18
So plugging it in:
Arrow of Death = 10 + 18 + 20 = 48
That's if they put all epic feats into Great Dex (except one
into EWF: Longbow)
I wouldn't say they can easily reach 50+ unless you know some
class/race combination that can get you more Dex and Arcane
Archer levels
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Re: Arrow of Death
By: Zilvai Date: July 1, 2019, 1:12 am
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[quote author=Dirac link=topic=189.msg535#msg535
date=1561947279]
Given the formula:
Arrow of Death = 10 + DEX Modifier + AA Level
- Maximum Amount of AA levels is 20.
- If you Epic Weapon Focus: Longbow and the rest Great
Dexterity, you can end with about 34 Dexterity
- +6 to Dexterity Modifier from buffing/Gear
Total Dexterity Modifier is around +18
So plugging it in:
Arrow of Death = 10 + 18 + 20 = 48
That's if they put all epic feats into Great Dex (except one
into EWF: Longbow)
I wouldn't say they can easily reach 50+ unless you know some
class/race combination that can get you more Dex and Arcane
Archer levels
[/quote]
You are correct. I counted for AA 30! Oopsie
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Re: Arrow of Death
By: Dirac Date: July 4, 2019, 10:23 pm
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I do think that a 48 DC is a bit high given what you said about
low save classes.
I'm honestly surprised that folks run around with low Fort
classes on a server where mid/low 40 DC Dev Crit is a thing.
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