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       Re: Family  news and events 
       By: Cloaked Date: January 9, 2018, 12:48 am
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       Yes, JC can certainly reminisce about the eighties.  Politically
       Spanish democracy could thank him.
       Still, he is not a person I applaud ... but I don't study Spain
       closely.
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       Re: Family  news and events 
       By: Cara Date: January 9, 2018, 2:06 pm
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       [quote author=Anastasia Beaverhausen link=topic=33.msg731#msg731
       date=1515448566]
       I think that the circumstances which forced JC to abdicate in
       2015 could reasonably be called messy (the elephant hunting trip
       and Christina, just to name two).  JC can certainly be blamed
       for the hunting trip, if not for over-indulging Cristina.  The
       horrific economic crisis in Spain magnified these things 100
       times over. That was not JC’s fault but going on expensive
       hunting trips was extremely tone deaf.
       In any event, I found this article written at abdication time
       which I think pretty fairly sums things up. As you say, Felipe
       was never going to have it easy, so why would JC want to make it
       harder?
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       [/quote]
       haven't had a chance to read the article yet but sure will.
       i do not think that JC makes it hard for felipe at this point in
       time or at any time. my sense is that he now is and belongs to
       the past. i personally do not think that his moaning is of much
       interest and doubt that people care about that.
       as for the noos and hunting trip affairs, sure they are part of
       the story behind his abdication... what we do not know yet is
       how much felipe played a role in seizing the power and what
       rajoy's role is/was. he was the PM under JC and continued under
       felipe. given how poorly the whole catalonia crisis wa/is
       handled, one can only wonder what the power dynamics are. i
       personally think that the reasons as to why JC eventually
       abdicated wiill pale in comparison of what he achieved for
       spain. but that we won't know for many years.
       #Post#: 1083--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Family  news and events 
       By: Tigerben Date: February 6, 2018, 12:36 pm
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       Flip and Lettie in Malaga  to present the merit in fine arts
       event
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       I like her bag , but I preferred her hair a little shorter.
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       Re: Family  news and events 
       By: fragrance78 Date: February 19, 2018, 6:56 am
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       19 Feb 2018
       Handing out the National Sports Awards 2016....yes 2016
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       Re: Family  news and events 
       By: fragrance78 Date: February 19, 2018, 7:00 am
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       Re: Family  news and events 
       By: fragrance78 Date: February 19, 2018, 7:03 am
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       Re: Family  news and events 
       By: fragrance78 Date: February 23, 2018, 5:43 am
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       22 Feb 2018
       Inauguration of the 37th edition of the International
       Contemporary Art Fair-ARCOmadrid
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       Re: Family  news and events 
       By: ABS Date: February 23, 2018, 9:09 am
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       Red doesn´t seem to be her colour.
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       Re: Family  news and events 
       By: fragrance78 Date: February 23, 2018, 9:53 am
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       [quote author=ABS link=topic=33.msg1620#msg1620 date=1519398578]
       Red doesn´t seem to be her colour.
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       She normally wear red well. This time it's a disaster. I think
       the boots are overkilling the whole outfit.
       #Post#: 1639--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Family  news and events 
       By: Cloaked Date: February 23, 2018, 7:55 pm
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       Swamped!
       Letizia has walked into Mathilde's wardrobe and put on an outfit
       way too big and designed for a statuesque woman.
       Mathilde, Maxima or Charlene could have carried off the outfit.
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