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       #Post#: 87--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ROMS 17.17: A Testing Time
   DIR By: Leif
       Date: December 18, 2012, 4:48 pm
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       --- Quote from: Luvessy link ---
       > The biggest "flaw", I think, is player admins.
       >
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       Conceptually, I have a problem with player admins having more
       info than other players.
       #Post#: 90--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ROMS 17.17: A Testing Time
   DIR By: Furare
       Date: December 18, 2012, 4:51 pm
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       Well, you have to have player-admins, or else you're saying that
       anyone who's willing to admin the board isn't allowed to play.
       :P
       Edit: Although it would be a separate account for playing, so
       the majority of the time everyone playing would be on the same
       footing.  If you're worried about information, then honestly I
       am the only safe person to be an admin - even if I can see
       you're online but not posting, I'm not going to give a crap or
       mention it at all, because I "lurk" all the time during ROMS
       games.  People logging in but not posting is a matter of supreme
       indifference to me.
       Secret boards that player-admins can see... well, I guess the
       solution is just not to have secret boards, heh.
       #Post#: 120--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ROMS 17.17: A Testing Time
   DIR By: Luvessy
       Date: December 18, 2012, 6:48 pm
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       --- Quote from: Leif link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Luvessy link=topic=4.msg84#msg84
       date=1355870589]The biggest "flaw", I think, is player admins.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Conceptually, I have a problem with player admins having more
       info than other players.
       [/quote]
       I was working on setting it so that once a game started, the
       forum admins wouldn't have more info than anyone else.  That's
       the tricky wicket.  I think there are some workarounds, provided
       one of your admins doesn't play.
       But, I seem to be the only one who likes the idea of everything
       being in the same place, anyway.
       #Post#: 121--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ROMS 17.17: A Testing Time
   DIR By: Furare
       Date: December 18, 2012, 6:55 pm
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       Really, I prefer to use google docs when I'm a rogue, so the
       idea of having centralised "rogue forums" that I basically have
       to use doesn't really appeal to me anyway, quite apart from any
       difficulties in having all of these things in one place.
       #Post#: 122--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ROMS 17.17: A Testing Time
   DIR By: Furare
       Date: December 18, 2012, 6:57 pm
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       Also, having secret things in the same place as the actual game
       is being run... I tend to believe in Murphy's Law, and think
       that if there's any possibility that something could go wrong,
       it probably will.  Having rogue forums on the same board as the
       active game seems to be asking for something to go wrong.
       Now, a combined rogue forum and dead thread forum might be a
       better idea, administratively speaking.
       Yeah, I made this a separate post to hit 50. :P
       #Post#: 124--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ROMS 17.17: A Testing Time
   DIR By: Luvessy
       Date: December 18, 2012, 7:04 pm
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       You certainly could have accidental cross-posting, ala chat
       booch, and the hilarity that would ensue!
       There's a 10-second freebie edit period currently.  I'm not sure
       how anyone could post and edit in that much time, but it can be
       reduced to 1 second.
       Similarly, there are options to turn off edit and delete
       permissions, if that's desirable.  Personally,I don't care if
       people want to try. Although maybe it's unfair to new players to
       trap them like that.
       #Post#: 126--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ROMS 17.17: A Testing Time
   DIR By: Furare
       Date: December 18, 2012, 7:09 pm
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       If those permissions are on a forum by forum basis, it could be
       disabled within the active game forum, and enabled everywhere
       else.  If we want to go the route of disallowing editing and
       deleting entirely, that is.
       #Post#: 127--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ROMS 17.17: A Testing Time
   DIR By: Luvessy
       Date: December 18, 2012, 7:38 pm
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       --- Quote from: Furare link ---
       >
       > Well, you have to have player-admins, or else you're saying
       that   If you're worried about information, then honestly I am
       the only safe person to be an admin - even if I can see you're
       online but not posting, I'm not going to give a crap or mention
       it at all, because I "lurk" all the time during ROMS games.
       People logging in but not posting is a matter of supreme
       indifference to me.
       --- End Quote ---
       It's not really a big deal.  Everyone can still see last time
       someone logged in, I think.
       #Post#: 130--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ROMS 17.17: A Testing Time
   DIR By: Furare
       Date: December 18, 2012, 7:45 pm
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       I wasn't entirely sure what information a player admin would
       have that a non-admin player would have.  Or what information
       they'd have that would matter, in the long run.  Oh, and I was
       joking about being the only "safe" person; obviously someone who
       doesn't play is safer. :P
       Edit: I suppose I have the crucial information of when
       everyone's birthday is - even if they've hidden the information.
       Muahahaha.
       #Post#: 131--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ROMS 17.17: A Testing Time
   DIR By: Leif
       Date: December 19, 2012, 8:53 am
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       --- Quote from: Luvessy link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Furare link=topic=4.msg90#msg90 date=1355871107]
       > Well, you have to have player-admins, or else you're saying
       that   If you're worried about information, then honestly I am
       the only safe person to be an admin - even if I can see you're
       online but not posting, I'm not going to give a crap or mention
       it at all, because I "lurk" all the time during ROMS games.
       People logging in but not posting is a matter of supreme
       indifference to me.
       --- End Quote ---
       It's not really a big deal.  Everyone can still see last time
       someone logged in, I think.
       [/quote]
       But I can't, for example, see who is hanging around at deadlines
       not saying anything. This isn't an argument against player
       admins so much as it is an argument against hiding information
       like that.
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