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#Post#: 11448--------------------------------------------------
flying
DIR By: mattysnowdon
Date: August 15, 2012, 4:40 am
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right guys can you tell me what I'm doing wrong? I let my birds
out at 8am they only fly for 15 minutes and when they land I
shake the corn and get them in and feed them, I started feeding
them first to see if that made them fly for longer but still
they only fly for around 15 minutes then when they come down I
can't get them in because they arnt hungry, it's only the cocks
I let out because the hens are on eggs so maybe that could be
the reason why they won't fly for long? I also feed them at
about 6pm aswell. what am I doing wrong? should I let them out
before feeding?
#Post#: 11449--------------------------------------------------
Re: flying
DIR By: LittleJohn
Date: August 15, 2012, 9:11 am
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Need some more info.
How old are these birds?
Am I correct in assuming that you are flying your breeders?
What kind of feed are you giving them and how much?
How long have you been flying them like this?
Are you seriously feeding these birds twice a day?
Just a few observations, and assumptions on my part.
Right now most of the country's birds are going through the
moult. This could be one reason why you are only getting 15
minutes out of them.
Another thing is, it sounds to me like you are way overfeeding
your birds and they are simply too heavy to fly for very
long...think about it...if you were overweight could you run as
fast as you could if you were in shape and at your prime weight?
It could also be a combination of the breeding, moulting and
overweight that is only rendering you with 15 minutes fly time.
I dont fly my birds often during the moult, because it is a
stressful process for them. But to each their own.
During the heat of the summer I concentrate my birds diets on
"water" grains such as wheat and milo and barley.
Heavy "oil" grains like corn, safflower, sunflower etc are only
used sparingly during the moult to help them develop good
feathers and give them the extra nutrition their body needs
during that time of stress.
Hope that helps to answer some of your questions.
LittleJohn
#Post#: 11450--------------------------------------------------
Re: flying
DIR By: mattysnowdon
Date: August 15, 2012, 11:22 am
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thanks John I have 12 birds and 3 out of them I've got 3 pair
and I just let them all out, now I realise I should keep my
breeders in and make a new kitbox and develop a kit is this
correct? I now only feed them once a day at about 5pm and I will
build my new kitbox tomorrow for the birds that arnt paired up?
when the eggs hatch and the youngens are old enough to feed for
them selves should I put them into the kitbox with the ones that
arnt paired up? I was feeding them trapping mix it's similar to
red band I was feeding them 2 ounces each a day but now I will
drop it to a cup full for 10 birds. does this information sound
somewere along the right lines?
#Post#: 11451--------------------------------------------------
Re: flying
DIR By: windjammer loft
Date: August 15, 2012, 8:48 pm
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It's only NATURAL for the cockbirds to get back to the nest and
protect HIS hen and eggs/babies.... I never fly my breeders
until my breeding season is OVER... Then after of week of
separation and rest from the hen I fly them both but, NOT
together...
#Post#: 11453--------------------------------------------------
Re: flying
DIR By: mattysnowdon
Date: August 16, 2012, 1:19 am
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ok cheers :) so is there ever a time you fly them both together?
#Post#: 11454--------------------------------------------------
Re: flying
DIR By: mattysnowdon
Date: August 16, 2012, 1:24 am
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also if I put my birds in a kitbox to develop a good kit, will
they not pair up them selves? also should I still split them off
or can I leave them together all year round?
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Re: flying
DIR By: windjammer loft
Date: August 16, 2012, 9:40 am
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Matty... I can only speak for myself. I keep both sexes
together while flying them as "young" birds. At the end of the
year is when I separate them and fly the cock-birds and hens
separately. While my young birds are in the kit box, I just
focus on them FLYING. Anything is possible while in the kit box
but, as young birds I have not found eggs in the kit box. Once
in awhile with my older hens I may get an egg now and then but,
I just throw it in the garbage... Everyone has their own method
of flying. Some guys will fly both sexes together, other will
separate them... It all comes down to preference. Their is no
"RIGHT" or "WRONG" answer to this question...Good luck
#Post#: 11460--------------------------------------------------
Re: flying
DIR By: mattysnowdon
Date: August 16, 2012, 2:34 pm
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cheers mate I'm starting to understand alot more about it all
now :)
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