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#Post#: 11344--------------------------------------------------
.When to separate
DIR By: windjammer loft
Date: July 21, 2012, 7:01 am
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For those of you who separate your flyers by sex..... At what
point or age do you separate them?? Also, at what point do you
change their feed in accordance with their flying?? Reason
being, I want to tweek my flying program up..
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Re: .When to separate
DIR By: wishiwon2
Date: July 21, 2012, 4:13 pm
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I cant answer all of your question, because I dont seperate
sexes in my kits except for the time during the summer when the
holdover birds are shut down.
With young birds, I dont maniplulate thier feed for performance
until after they have completed a moult. I occasionally add a
young bird or 2 into a holdover kit, but they rarely are able to
maintain themselvesin that environment for more than a week or
two. They just arent ready to run with the big dogs. I do change
feed to maintain flying height and duration, but not rolling
performance. In general as they mature it takes less and less
feed to keep them where I want. They require a bit more feed
during heavy moult and performances will be less predictable.
It is hard to fool around much with rations on young birds that
are still developing because you have to first set a baseline.
They have to be predictable to start with so you can identify
what changes you see came from changes in feed ration, not
simply as part of their development. When I say predictable, I
mean over a period a few weeks to a month, not just a few days.
Please let us know how your tweeks go. Would be interesting to
hear about other guys successes or failures.
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Re: .When to separate
DIR By: windjammer loft
Date: July 23, 2012, 10:41 am
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wishiwon2... at this time I give them ( 2 cups for 15 birds) a
mixture of maple & austrailian peas,wheat, milo and sauflower
for #1 kit and (1 1/2 cups for 8 birds) a mixture of 1/2 cup of
pellets and 1 cup of the above mentioned mix for kit #2. The 15
bird kit is flying between 45 minutes and 1 hour daily for about
2 weeks and kitting quite well. The second kit, I have just
started flying them this past week. They are "all over" the sky
as of yet and fly for about 25 minutes or so.
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Re: .When to separate
DIR By: Cgosch
Date: August 10, 2012, 4:53 am
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Windjammer: is that how much you feed total for the day? I am
still new, but it seems like alot.
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Re: .When to separate
DIR By: windjammer loft
Date: August 11, 2012, 9:41 am
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Cgosch... that's what I was feeding kit #1 at the time I posted
.. Since then I have cut back a little do to the heat. I have
some birds really turning "on", getting 20 - 30 footers as of
yesterday evening.
As for kit #2, I have been just letting them out on the landing
board and sitting on the roof taking it all in. I will start
flagging them up later this week... This kit still gets all they
want to eat...
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Re: .When to separate
DIR By: windjammer loft
Date: August 13, 2012, 11:53 am
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The progress on kit #2 (3rd rounders) is kind of surprising to
me. The first time I flagged them up, I put in 2 of my older
hens with them, they went up as if they had been flying for
months..... ;D . They had great height, kitted strong and
stayed up for about 30 minutes at that height. When they landed
they hit the landing board and went right in with NO coaxing
what so ever....
Yesterday afternoon I had a little incident with my kit #1.
They all skied out and went out of sight. Never returned at all
that day. So, this morning I sent up kit #2, (3rd rounders by
the way) they hit the sky like they were "race" pigeons.
Circling up to very high heights.....as I watched them circle,
about 25 minutes later,low and behold my kit doubled in size.
Somehow,somewhere ALL my birds that I thought were goners were
flying as 1 LARGE kit. Man was I ever HAPPY...
By the way this is the FIRST 3rd rounders I ever produced that
were so IMPRESSIVE to me....
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