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       #Post#: 11293--------------------------------------------------
       BOP
   DIR By: Jon
       Date: July 7, 2012, 11:55 am
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       I have noticed a couple of small Hawks about the size of my
       birds but with a longer tail. They for the most part fly lower
       than my birds when I can see them both. Yesterday i turned my
       birds loose and the hawk flew right in front of them. My birds
       (thinking he was one of them) flew up to him. Thought i was
       going to loose at least one but the all came back.  Do you know
       what kind of hawk this may be?
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       Re: BOP
   DIR By: chesley l warren
       Date: July 7, 2012, 8:11 pm
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       Hey Jon, I dont't think I could make the call on that . Mostly
       someone would have to view the bird. Just yesterday morn I
       thought I saw something  like your saying and I had to look good
       , but turned out to be a dove,  but i still wasn't sure untill
       he pulled away from the kit. Gave me a scare, although the birds
       flying were not really ones to treasure!!  We have Blue Darters
       here and Kites nesting near, but they have never tried to catch
       a pigeon yet. I don't know what they feed on. I think a pigeon
       knows a bop, and they  will take  evasave action quickly.  BOP
       can bust my bubble and theres no good feeling about that!!!!
       Have a good day! Chesley
       #Post#: 11296--------------------------------------------------
       Re: BOP
   DIR By: markmidmo
       Date: July 7, 2012, 9:27 pm
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       The small size makes me think it is an American Kestrel (sparrow
       hawk).   They usually go after smaller birds hence the name
       sparrow hawk, but will on occasion try to take a young pigeon.
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       Re: BOP
   DIR By: slvrollers
       Date: July 7, 2012, 10:18 pm
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       Hi Jon  I live in an area that has Falcons. Every time I see a
       smaller Bop its a falcon. It will head right  into the kit thats
       flying and try and separate the birds. Then it will follow them
       up and try and get some of the birds down below it. It will
       dive after the ones down lower at a very high rate of speed.
       Good luck with the Bop
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       Re: BOP
   DIR By: Jon
       Date: July 7, 2012, 10:41 pm
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       I'm sure this is some kind of BOP. It soars like a hawk. When it
       is below my birds they don't seem bothered but when it climbs
       the birds are gone. In years past when the birds disappeared
       because of a BOP they wouldn't come back for hours. This time
       they are usually back in about 1/2 hr' I don't know if that is
       because 90% of my flyers are young and possibly stupid. I've
       seen sparrow hawks but they are usually sitting and I don't
       remember their tail being long (this BOP's tail is at least 3/4
       as long as his body).
       5
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       Re: BOP
   DIR By: slvrollers
       Date: July 8, 2012, 3:18 pm
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       Hi Jon
       Tony has posted raptor silhouettes on this page below. Might
       help you identify what kind of sky shark  is after your pigeons.
       
  HTML http://www.rollerpigeon.com/minimizing-eliminating-bop-attacks/raptor-silhouettes/
  HTML http://www.rollerpigeon.com/minimizing-eliminating-bop-attacks/raptor-silhouettes/<br
       />
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       Re: BOP
   DIR By: Jon
       Date: July 8, 2012, 7:25 pm
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       That's neat. What I see doesn't look like any of those. The tail
       is closer to a falcon (straight and narrow) it did not fan out
       as I remember. I'm sure if it was a falcon one of my birds would
       have been lunch or dinner. My understanding is that falcons
       attack from above and these were fairly low flying birds.
       Looking at the pictures a second time I'm wondering if it could
       have been a young cooper hawk. We have them here but it's
       usually the older bigger ones who get my birds.
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       Re: BOP
   DIR By: oldfart
       Date: July 8, 2012, 8:15 pm
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       Hey Jon, It could be a juvenile male Cooper. The male is smaller
       even in an adult and I have lost tooooo many birds to Cooper
       Hawks but never to a male Cooper.
       Take care my friend
       Thom
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       Re: BOP
   DIR By: Cliff Ball
       Date: July 9, 2012, 12:11 pm
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       Or it could be a Sharpshinned hawk. They look and fly like a
       miniature Coopers. Like they Coopers, they tend to exhibit
       several rapid wingbeats, then soar a ways, then repeat the rapid
       wingbeats and soar again. The Sharpies do the same, but their
       wingbeats are more frequent and more rapid. Don't let their
       small size fool you. They CAN take a pigeon. I doubt it's a
       Kestral (or Sparrowhawk.) They don't do too much soaring. They
       will hoover, but otherwise they are usually on the move in
       flight or else perched.
       Cliff
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       Re: BOP
   DIR By: Ron B
       Date: July 9, 2012, 8:31 pm
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       Sounds like a cooper or a sharpie to me. I am way too familiar
       with both.
       
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