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#Post#: 10965--------------------------------------------------
kit box Question
DIR By: slvrollers
Date: April 21, 2012, 12:25 pm
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Do you prefer to let sun light into your kit box or keep it on
the darker side? Also what kind of effect will it have on your
rollers?
#Post#: 10966--------------------------------------------------
Re: kit box Question
DIR By: oldfart
Date: April 21, 2012, 1:02 pm
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Hey Mike, a dark kit box is an out dated notion. Keeping your
birds in the dark will cause more harm then good. If indeed the
sudden release into sun light causes excitment then it comes at
the worst possible time, the point of release. Which in turn
causes birds to crash on take off. The positive effects of sun
on our birds far outweigh any that might come form confining
them in the dark.
jmho
Take care my friend
Thom
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Re: kit box Question
DIR By: Tony Chavarria
Date: April 21, 2012, 1:11 pm
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For me I like my birds coming out of a dark kit box into the
daylight. I feel it agitates them to some degree and gets them
amped up a bit as they change from the tighter environment of
the kit box to the wide open and friendly skies ;D
I do think Thom does have a valid point, when birds are being
prepped to run the ragged edge for top performance, weaker
character birds may have a harder time of it, that is when
selecting better birds for stock comes into play if this is a
problem. Breed stronger minded birds... :D
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Re: kit box Question
DIR By: wishiwon2
Date: April 21, 2012, 5:53 pm
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--- Quote from: oldfart link ---
>
> ... Keeping your birds in the dark will cause more harm then
good. ... The positive effects of sun on our birds far outweigh
any that might come form confining them in the dark.
> jmho
> Take care my friend
> Thom
>
--- End Quote ---
What harm does keeping them in a box with out direct sunlight
cause them?
What are the positive effects of sun for kitbirds?
I dont think a darkened kitbox is all that outdated Thom. It may
not be necessary to induce rolling. I, like Tony, believe there
is an amount of excitment that birds derive from being out in
the open and light as compared to the inside of a semi-dark box.
I dont use a completely dark kitbox and dont know guys who do.
Most have either a wire screen floor which allows a substantial
amount of indirect light in, or have vents for air circulation
which also permit indirect light in.
The greatest advantage of a darkened kit box void of direct sun
exposure, in my opinion, is the reduced stimulus to mate and lay
eggs. On a reduced diet and with limited direct sunlight, my
kitbirds seldom pair up and it is extremely rare I have an egg
in the kitbox (like 2 or 3 eggs in 14 yrs).
Tony makes a good point about stock selection and stabililty.
Jon
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Re: kit box Question
DIR By: donnie james
Date: April 21, 2012, 7:23 pm
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hay slv,
i a got avery on the front of my fly box and the doors has frame
and wire on them i hope this works
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Re: kit box Question
DIR By: chesley l warren
Date: April 21, 2012, 8:49 pm
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i don't know answer to kit box, but i know that if i come out of
a dark place like inside of a barn and i hit 100% sunshine, it
is hard to see or focus on anything. Same thing when i return to
darker barn. I think close quarters for birds helps inthat it
reduces exercise, so that when the gate drops, they are ready to
rock and roll.! I do know hound dogs that run free are not good
hunters. but keep them shut up in pen and they do much better
when released. I also know from experience that bass fish don't
have eye lids. Thats why i fish the shade spots. BOP doesn't
care if a bird is focused or not, but i'd sure like for mine to
be. I'm just a novice rookie but thats just my take of it. Happy
birds,, make me happy.lol Chesley
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Re: kit box Question
DIR By: oldfart
Date: April 22, 2012, 5:43 am
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Hey all, I just like an open box with plenty of light and air
flow. I have kept rollers most of my life and never in a small
kit box until about seven years ago. I have and use one now but
with the addition of open doors and an attached fly pen where
sun is available. I simply want my birds to have the best life
possible and for me a stuffy, small, hot and dark box does not
provide that. My birds kit well and perform to my expectations
while living in as much comfort as I can provide. When I said
birds would crash, my reasoning was because they are coming from
dark into bright light and are not able to see and bumping into
each other or anything else in the way.
This is the way I manage my birds. Your way might work better
but I am happy so I doubt I will change and I do not expect
anyone else to.
Jon, I fly my kits seperated by sex with the exception of each
years very young. I fly young birds mixed with a few old hens
until the boys start acting like boys and then they are moved to
an all cock kit of young birds.
Take care my friends
Thom
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Re: kit box Question
DIR By: Sound Rollers
Date: April 22, 2012, 8:01 am
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I don't believe a dark kit box does them any harm. If you notice
the wild pigeons like to roost/nest in dark places i.e. old
abandon attics, buildings, and under bridges and so on.
John
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Re: kit box Question
DIR By: slvrollers
Date: April 22, 2012, 9:52 am
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Thanks for everyone's input. I have a semi darkened kit box. 1
inch wire floor, vents and a screen doors. But its not in
direct sunlight most of the day. Doors face north.
Thanks
Mike F
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Re: kit box Question
DIR By: donnie james
Date: April 22, 2012, 10:00 am
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hay chesley,
i tried both keeping them in the dark (and open the trap while
they ate) and letting them to have sunshine they still do the
same i hope this help you out/////////donnie james
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