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       #Post#: 10835--------------------------------------------------
       Wheat and Milo
   DIR By: windjammer loft
       Date: March 20, 2012, 6:28 pm
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       I know this food thing is a large problem with many of us
       guys...  I was just wondering "where"  the concept of just
       feeding wheat and milo came from??  Why can't they just be fed a
       "good" pigeon mix?  In my mind, I can't see where feeding just
       these 2 grains can give the birds all they need.  Can anyone
       shed some light on this for me, as well as many other who are in
       question ??
       #Post#: 10837--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Wheat and Milo
   DIR By: wannaroll
       Date: March 20, 2012, 11:51 pm
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       Feeding straight wheat 14% protein ensures your birds are eating
       the same exact thing leading up to a competition. If you feed
       pigeon mix you will have certain birds eating all the peas 24%
       protein and others eating only Milo 11.5%. You will end up with
       birds that are different in weight and strength.
       I feed a good mix when I'm building their muscles up, but when
       it gets close to comp time everything is fed separate. Wheat,
       Milo, peas and safflower. You want your birds all close to the
       same weight and strength to get the best consistancy in the air.
       
       #Post#: 10838--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Wheat and Milo
   DIR By: wishiwon2
       Date: March 21, 2012, 1:11 am
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       Daves right about feeding mixed grains. We have talked about
       that here before. Feeding a mix allows birds to be selective and
       thus not all birds in the kit are nutritionally on the same
       wavelength. This affects your kits performance as well as your
       potential stock selections.
       I dont know who came up with a wheat milo combination, I did
       not. I have experiemented, extensively with grains and
       performance in my birds and have found it to be a very
       predictable combination for getting top performance from my
       birds. I dont know why (I have a few hypotheses), but for me, it
       just works.
       You can feed a mixture of various grains, there are guys all
       over the country who do it. My birds have not suffered any ill
       effects healthwise from eating a limited selection though. It
       has been said that during WW times, when grain was rationed,
       pigeon fliers fed bread crumbs to their birds. I believe
       sometimes we out think ourselves and over complicate matters
       with our birds.
       #Post#: 10848--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Wheat and Milo
   DIR By: windjammer loft
       Date: March 23, 2012, 7:55 am
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       Wishiwon2... So, I take it that the "wheat & milo"  mix would
       just be for the roller breed?   They can sustain perfectly with
       just those 2 grains as their main diet??  For the past few days
       I have fed just straight milo to 6 birds and have noticed a
       LARGE difference in their performance. I have to get to the feed
       store this weekend and get some wheat to finish my experiment.
       I would add some other grains separately, for instances as for
       the  Molt and Cold Temps.or for just a Treat for good behavior.
       :D   I finally got it ..... hahaha .... Thanks for the
       explanation guys.
       #Post#: 10853--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Wheat and Milo
   DIR By: lew3015
       Date: March 23, 2012, 2:20 pm
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       Windjammer, now you have us hanging, What results did you see in
       your birds by feeding just milo. Was it for the good or bad Sure
       would like to know. Thanks
       #Post#: 10854--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Wheat and Milo
   DIR By: LittleJohn
       Date: March 23, 2012, 4:31 pm
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       hey windjammer...you have a PM ;D
       #Post#: 10855--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Wheat and Milo
   DIR By: chesley l warren
       Date: March 23, 2012, 8:22 pm
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       i'm so furstrated sometime about  feeding,I'm not sure what to
       do,being new at this. But now i do understand the reasoning for
       straight wheat or milo combo. I understand now they all get same
       diet. reminds me of boot camp days.  about the time  I think ive
       got  them up flyin high and the time i like, then i read about
       needing nutrition. So Im feeding wheat, so now i"m gonna do
       nutrition-- OK i put a dab of brewers yest in the wheat, put a
       little peanut oil on that sos to make it stick, day later they
       fly like fireworks that shoots  20 different directions, but
       like some one on here said once, they are in the same Zip Code.
       Sometimes i want to quit trying, if it were not for this site, I
       would, but i keep  trying. Some say feed mix, well to me at
       first i thought store bought pigeon feed was the mix, then i
       find out mix is any thing you want to mix togather and get it
       on. Some say dont feed scratch feed because of canker, well i
       dont, but had a bird that had it !! I think my birds hate to see
       me comming with a feed can, not to mention  acv etc.  I know its
       not as bad  as i make it, but im stuck with indecisions. thanks
       {chesley} hey hey hey!
       #Post#: 10857--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Wheat and Milo
   DIR By: slvrollers
       Date: March 23, 2012, 10:20 pm
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       I bought a kit from Tony last year and i also have a family of
       Easley rollers that were gifted to me by a good friend 5 years
       ago. I tried the wheat and Milo thing and controlling the amount
       of food they eat. I tried different grain mixes for six months
       to get more performance out of my birds.  The results have been
       amazing.  Everyday i fly they kit well and roll their little
       hearts out.  I have only had one fly out in four months and it
       showed back up the next day.  I want to say the birds i got from
       Tony are amazing. I'm seriously thinking about flying a regional
       competition in 2013.  I'm so happy i am moving forward  and my
       rollers are better then ever.  I never imagined it would be this
       good.
       #Post#: 10864--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Wheat and Milo
   DIR By: windjammer loft
       Date: March 25, 2012, 6:57 am
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       The results I got was very "drastic".  They "slowed" down very
       much.  Started rolling more rolls together.  The only draw back
       with just the milo is they are going "up" way too high.  Almost
       look like gnats in the shy...hehe Iam hoping that the wheat will
       bring them back down to a good level.
       Little John... sorry about the pm.  I"ll get back to it this
       afternoon, after church.
       #Post#: 10866--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Wheat and Milo
   DIR By: LittleJohn
       Date: March 25, 2012, 9:20 pm
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       --- Quote from: windjammer loft link ---
       >
       > The results I got was very "drastic".  They "slowed" down very
       much.  Started rolling more rolls together.  The only draw back
       with just the milo is they are going "up" way too high.  Almost
       look like gnats in the shy...hehe Iam hoping that the wheat will
       bring them back down to a good level.
       >
       >
       > Little John... sorry about the pm.  I"ll get back to it this
       afternoon, after church.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       --- Quote from: windjammer loft link ---
       >
       > The results I got was very "drastic".  They "slowed" down very
       much.  Started rolling more rolls together.  The only draw back
       with just the milo is they are going "up" way too high.  Almost
       look like gnats in the shy...hehe Iam hoping that the wheat will
       bring them back down to a good level.
       >
       >
       > Little John... sorry about the pm.  I"ll get back to it this
       afternoon, after church.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       You must have a long meeting at your church...lol
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