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       #Post#: 602--------------------------------------------------
       Not exactly line breeding, not exactly inbreeding
   DIR By: oldfart
       Date: September 25, 2010, 3:28 pm
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       This is not exactly line breeding to it‘s truest form but is
       more like a cross between line and inbreeding. Be aware that all
       traits, good or bad will become condensed so each year choose
       only the birds that exemplify your conception of what the
       perfect roller represents. Selection is the key for success.
       Avoid the temptation to use more then the scheduled breeders.
       Instead when there are additional birds you consider worthy,
       start a separate line.
        
       1st breeding season.
       “A” Original cock
       “B” Original hen
       “C” Best cock produced from “A+B”
       “D” Best hen produced from “A+B”
       2nd breeding season using the progeny from the 1st breeding
       season.
       “A+D” Original cock bred to best young hen produced in first
       breeding season. (Father/daughter)
       “B+C” Original hen bred to best young cock produced in first
       breeding season. (Mother/son)
       “E” Best cock produced from “A+D”
       “F” Best hen produced from “B+C”
       3rd breeding season using the progeny from the 2nd breeding
       season.
       “E+D” Best young cock “D” produced in the 1st breeding season is
       bred to best daughter ”F” produced in 2nd season.
       (Father/daughter)
       “C+F” Best young hen produced in the 1st breeding season is bred
       to best son produced in 2nd season. (Mother/son)
        
       The 2nd breeding season cock and hen now become the foundation
       and the process starts over. I use the original cock and hen to
       start another closely related line with the intent of a possible
       in/cross if ever needed. Even though both lines have the same
       origins, the gene pool is so diverse that even nest mates are
       not exact copies. I have very limited knowledge of genetics and
       am not qualified to say how long this could be continued, so I
       post this as suggestion only. I think there are other methods,
       which work as well, only slower.
       
       Take care
       Thom
       #Post#: 603--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Not exactly line breeding, not exactly inbreeding
   DIR By: BigShawn
       Date: September 25, 2010, 3:35 pm
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       Thats a great way to making your own family . That A and B birds
       have to have everything you would want in your loft.  Thanks for
       sharing. Shawn
       #Post#: 605--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Not exactly line breeding, not exactly inbreeding
   DIR By: oldfart
       Date: September 25, 2010, 5:22 pm
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       Hey Shawn, Your are right it pays to have the two best birds you
       can find or breed. Slection and a hard mind set help, only use
       your best each season.
       
       Thanks, Take care
       Thom
       #Post#: 608--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Not exactly line breeding, not exactly inbreeding
   DIR By: BigShawn
       Date: September 25, 2010, 7:22 pm
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       Thom I plan on using that breeding method when I can find the
       $200-3oo I would need for that right pair. Thanks thom.  shawn
       #Post#: 609--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Not exactly line breeding, not exactly inbreeding
   DIR By: Rockylofts
       Date: September 25, 2010, 7:32 pm
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       Hey Thom, you old fart how are you buddy? i enjoyed reading your
       post ;)  good method. 8)
       #Post#: 615--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Not exactly line breeding, not exactly inbreeding
   DIR By: tpvang
       Date: September 25, 2010, 11:19 pm
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       Good read!
       #Post#: 618--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Not exactly line breeding, not exactly inbreeding
   DIR By: Robert
       Date: September 26, 2010, 12:35 am
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       Good read, very well put together thom.
       #Post#: 621--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Not exactly line breeding, not exactly inbreeding
   DIR By: oldfart
       Date: September 26, 2010, 6:07 am
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       Thank you Gentlemen,
       
       Rocky my fiend How are your young birds doing? I hope you have
       all of the other Gents from down-under worried!
       
       Hey Shawn, You can start anytime, it will quickly show you their
       potential and their faults.
       
       tpvang thank you, reading it is harder then doing it!
       
       Jim it looks complicated but is in truth very simple.
       
       Take care my friends
       Thom
       #Post#: 658--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Not exactly line breeding, not exactly inbreeding
   DIR By: Roller Man 70
       Date: September 27, 2010, 5:30 am
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       Hey Thom:
       
       Great post, I know there are a lot of Newbies out there that
       just don't understand the need to be extream in the culling
       process. You have to be able to cull hard-hard-hard. Don't breed
       to it if it doesn't come up to your standards, no matter
       what---If they don't fly right-they die
       #Post#: 659--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Not exactly line breeding, not exactly inbreeding
   DIR By: Ty Coleman
       Date: September 27, 2010, 5:43 am
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       Roller Man, It was told to me like this. Your standard is the
       weakest bird in your stock loft. Think about it, It made sense
       to me.
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