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#Post#: 10314--------------------------------------------------
Start of the Breeding Year Question
DIR By: markmidmo
Date: December 14, 2011, 2:53 pm
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A 4H kid asked me a question that provoked some thought. Do
you set up your matings based on the day on the calendar or do
you wait until the average temperature reachs a certain point so
squabs don't suffer or die in the nest? Wow, that kid was
thinking! I'd be interested in hearing how you'd answer
him.....
#Post#: 10315--------------------------------------------------
Re: Start of the Breeding Year Question
DIR By: wishiwon2
Date: December 14, 2011, 4:10 pm
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I pair mine up by a date on the calendar. I cant predict
reliably what the temperature/weather will be in a month when
squabs will be hatched and vulnerable. My pairing up date is
determined more by photoperiod length. I put birds together the
weekend after Valentines day. I run 12 hrs of light for the 2
weeks prior, and continue until most of the eggs have hatched.
After then, the natural daylength is sufficient to stimulate
libido and pairs breed normally, on schedule. Occasionally a
cold snap sets in at just the critical period (10-15 days old)
when young are vulnerable, but the vast majority of my squabs
survive just fine without any concerns of being chilled.
Good parents will care for their young and not let them chill. I
want good parents in my stock. If they arent good at raising
babies, its questionable they will stay in stock.
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Re: Start of the Breeding Year Question
DIR By: raul carreiro
Date: December 14, 2011, 5:17 pm
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--- Quote from: markmidmo link ---
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> A 4H kid asked me a question that provoked some thought. Do
you set up your matings based on the day on the calendar or do
you wait until the average temperature reachs a certain point so
squabs don't suffer or die in the nest? Wow, that kid was
thinking! I'd be interested in hearing how you'd answer
him.....
>
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Hi markmdmo, very interesting indeed! It would be even more
interesting in hearing how you answered the question asked??
#Post#: 10318--------------------------------------------------
Re: Start of the Breeding Year Question
DIR By: markmidmo
Date: December 14, 2011, 5:23 pm
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I've always used Valentines Day. That's what I was told back
when I was a kid
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Re: Start of the Breeding Year Question
DIR By: raul carreiro
Date: December 14, 2011, 5:33 pm
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--- Quote from: markmidmo link ---
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> I've always used Valentines Day. That's what I was told back
when I was a kid
>
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Hi markmidmo, sorry for sounding sarcastic, but the truth is
back when I was a kid I was told that if I didnt go to sleep
early on Christmas eve Santa would not deliver my presents! With
todays modern technologies and progressive fore thought one can
breed pigeons all year round!
#Post#: 10320--------------------------------------------------
Re: Start of the Breeding Year Question
DIR By: donnie james
Date: December 14, 2011, 5:34 pm
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hay markmidmo,
for years i put my breeders together the week of thanksgiving
and they do good with their young in the winter time and i brake
them up the 1st week of april or there of ................don
nie james p.s. those southern ohio guys was hard to beat in the
flies i need a head start on them to beat them lol
#Post#: 10323--------------------------------------------------
Re: Start of the Breeding Year Question
DIR By: oldfart
Date: December 15, 2011, 8:02 am
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Hi Mark, My season starts centered around the weather and B.O.P.
migration. In southern Ohio the hawk migrations are over (
mostly ) by the first of April and the weather has warmed enough
for trap training. I start Febuary the first with birds in the
kit box by April first and my breeding season over by the end of
March. I heat my loft so weather in Febuary is not a hardship.
Take care my friend
Thom
#Post#: 10324--------------------------------------------------
Re: Start of the Breeding Year Question
DIR By: markmidmo
Date: December 15, 2011, 10:14 am
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Thanks guys. The problem with kids is that they want it black
and white. Hearing someone starts in November doesn't really
help them out because they don't listen to all the caveats like
"heated loft", "different part of the country", etc.
We always put the birds together on Valentines day because there
was 10 days for pairing up, then 18 days for incubation and that
put you into more settled weather.
Most of the kids use old sheds for pigeon lofts, so weather is a
big factor for them.
Oh, and Raul, don't worry about hurting my feelings. I like
sarcasm and am too old to take much personal.
#Post#: 10325--------------------------------------------------
Re: Start of the Breeding Year Question
DIR By: Johnnie Williams
Date: December 15, 2011, 10:18 am
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Put 4 pair feeders and 2 pair of MEEs and 2 of Cliff Ball
breeders together on 12/13/11 useing 1 cock on Mee hens and 1
Ball cock on Cliffs hens all are New this Year-- also put 3 best
breeder pair from last year without feeders-- Mehdi Blue Bar
cock on Ball Pie Red Check Badge hen-- Mehdi Yellow Mottle on
Mehdi Yellow and Mehdi Red Grizzle cock on Joe Emberton Ash Red
T- Patt Check hen-- was going to wait until February but when
new 2 MEE cocks and a hen arrived on 13Th from Michigan couldn't
resist the temptation --Moving the 2 cocks back and forth every
4 hrs. or so spend 1 night with hen next with other-- going to
raise 3 to 5 rounds on MEEs and BALLs then change both cocks--
"I CAN HARDLY WAIT TO SEE FIRST EGGS and BABIES" Praying for
good year in 2012... GOD Bless!!!
#Post#: 10326--------------------------------------------------
Re: Start of the Breeding Year Question
DIR By: 2y4life
Date: December 15, 2011, 10:45 am
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Yes, I agree with Mark.
What is most important is the location/geography and the climate
in the area you live in. I live in Central Wisconsin WI where
the average high temperature doesn't top 30 degrees until March
and even in March, the average low temperature is still 21. I
don't have a heated loft so we'll see when my birds start to
reproduce.
Putting them together around Valentines and will see if they lay
eggs by mid-March.
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