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Culling And Selective Breeding
By: Tony Chavarria Date: December 6, 2011, 1:12 pm
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Culling is the process by which an animal is removed from a
group due to its lacking certain characteristics or having those
that are undesirable. There are several cases in which culling
practices are utilized today.
In each instance, however, strict culling guidelines and
criteria are implemented. For instance, in the area of
livestock, male chicks are culled shortly after being hatched
due to their lack of use in egg production. Culling in wildlife
occurs with the hunting of certain animals to deal with
overpopulation, and is often put into practice when certain
species of animals are tested positive for contagious diseases,
in order to prevent the spread of disease.
Culling, in the instance of pedigree animals, can also refer to
the selective breeding of a species. Certain animals are spayed
or neutered if they show undesirable traits for which the
breeder does not want passed to its offspring.
In addition, the animals that are more desirable are kept to
breed, while those that are not are given away or sold as pets.
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Re: Culling And Selective Breeding
By: Cliff Ball Date: December 6, 2011, 2:00 pm
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Thank you, Tony, for providing this excellent background
information for those tender-hearted and un-informed individuals
who do not understand the many reasons and benefits of the
culling process in animal husbandry and wildlife population
management.
Cliff
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Re: Culling And Selective Breeding
By: trammell Date: December 6, 2011, 2:46 pm
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[font=verdana]hey tony,[/font]
thanx for posting this and i learned alot that i didnt
understand before...... i understand hunting of certain animals,
but thats to protect human life, if we didnt hunt deer they
would take over our back yard in less than five years, thats
dangerous to us so yes hunt them to prevent that.
[font=verdana] if an animal is born with a birth defect yes
cull it..... livestock is culled for human consumption if we
didnt none of us would not be as
[/font][font=verdana]nourished[/font][font=verdana] as we
are.[/font]
[font=verdana] Now in our instance i feel that your strain is
too good to be culled unless they are born retarded, or
defected...... i feel that your culls will be the best birds ive
ever had.... but your expectations are higher than mine too im
sure...... so between me and you if you personally have a few
birds you are going to cull due to any reason other than retard,
or some other defect may i please buy them from you or
sumthing... im not a breeder i am a flyer (not Competitive) and
i like to see all the different colors and sizes of the birds as
one big group lovin it, but once i find the good stuff and
retire, then start breeding the good ones in a few years or
so..... its like a fish tank but only in the sky i just like to
relax an watch.[/font]
[font=verdana] like i let hawks take my sick birds that way it
doesnt go to waste and another animal got a meal... theres a
huge field i take them too and release them......[/font]
[font=verdana] i just dont believe in culling birds for being
stubborn, or whatever els...... [/font]
[font=verdana]like i said ill take the ones that may help a
beginner like me but the too far gone cull them[/font]
[font=verdana]once again thanx TONY[/font]
[font=verdana]MARVIN[/font]
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Re: Culling And Selective Breeding
By: Tony Chavarria Date: December 6, 2011, 2:59 pm
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Thank you Cliff and Trammel, just trying to help everyone. :D
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Re: Culling And Selective Breeding
By: trammell Date: December 6, 2011, 3:14 pm
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so Tony what about my offer. ;D
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Re: Culling And Selective Breeding
By: buttertup Date: December 6, 2011, 4:05 pm
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It has always been a puzzle to me as to whether rolling is a
genetic flaw deemed a positive trait, not unlike the many
fainting goats 'round our parts. Perhaps we are breeding in a
deliberate flaw and culling out healthy birds lol, but this is
just how yer cute lil' bulldog or pekinese was developed
hundreds of years ago or more. The reason for culling the birds
for me, is that I am afraid if I didn't, within not too many
generations, the rolling flaw or gift would be bred out of the
bird, reducing the flock to regular street birds. Of course very
deep rollers are also culled in the effort to create a balance
and strive towards a breed standard of sorts. This pigeon
husbandry is born out of my own logic not out of fact, but I
thought Trammel would at least understand my own reasons for
culling. :P Peace out.
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Re: Culling And Selective Breeding
By: oldfart Date: December 6, 2011, 5:11 pm
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To be ripped apart and eaten alive is oh so much better! At
least their is no blood on your hands. I can not beleive you
honestly think that is a more fitting way to rid yourself of
unwanted, sick or inferior birds but it is better then giving
them to an unsuspecting newbie.
Thom
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Re: Culling And Selective Breeding
By: raul carreiro Date: December 6, 2011, 5:29 pm
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Buttertup, I am of the opinion that the rolling trait in rollers
is most defineitly a genetic flaw that we as breeders try to
perpetuate to "our advantage"! You dont see this rolling trait
in feral or wild flocks of pigeons,for the sheer fact that even
domesticated pigeons that have been let loose, after a few
generations will revert back to the wild type and coloration!
Your analogy of Bulldogs and Pekinise is a perfect example of
how we as breeders of rollers compare to what breeders of these
dogs are breeding for a "deformity" !
Marvin even Tonys Rubys produce culls! So do every Thom,Dick and
Harrys birds! The only difference is how the breeder chooses
what is a cull and what is not! You know the old saying "one
mans trash is another mans treasure"
Those who are at the top in any type of animal breeding cull
very heavily! You cant use the old carpenters advise of
measure twice cut once when you wish to have a stud of birds
that are competive, backyard fliers or comp! I would not advise
anyone to give or sell thier culls to those who are just
starting out either, A cull is a cull regardless of the reason!
This unethical practice will only in time frustrate the beginer
and cause him/her many years of wasted time! Ive been in the
construction industry for as long as I can remember, would you
want be to build your home with inferior pruducts??
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Re: Culling And Selective Breeding
By: trammell Date: December 6, 2011, 5:58 pm
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Hey OLD FART,
A pigeon being eaten by a hawk is nature thats how god wanted
it. Hawks Eat Pigeons and will continue to thats what they try
to do everyday. If i got a sick bird give it to nature. not pop
its head throw it away and let it rot..... FOR WHAT?....
And please believe me if i had a newbie around me he would have
some.......
And remember im ok with culling, but the reasons are
stupid............ this is how u guys sound......... lol
"Oh this bird is rolling, its healthy, but it flies too high so
im going to pop its head and through it away" tell me where
thats cool BRO.
"uhhhhhh this bird has rough fethers so im going to pop its head
and go wash my hands"
Buttercup i understand your logic and its fine
RAUL CARREIRO dude my home is twice as important than my flock.
So no dont build my hause with BS materials. but you can build
me a coop with that though.....
last words on this topic a life is a life treat it like its
yours......... smdh
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Re: Culling And Selective Breeding
By: raul carreiro Date: December 6, 2011, 6:05 pm
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Marvin, I didnt expect for you to understand what I was saying
about building a house with inferior products! Maybe someone
else here can explain the context of what I wrote at your level
of understanding a little better for you with pictures and
pop-ups LOL!
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