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       #Post#: 10137--------------------------------------------------
       Re: stop the cruelty of culling
   DIR By: jd44
       Date: December 3, 2011, 4:21 am
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       THE ONLY ONES THAT DON'T CULL DON'T FLY EITHER. THE BIRDS ARE
       HERE FOR US NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. If you want to by cull
       birds you may find they are not for sale. But you can always
       try.
       #Post#: 10139--------------------------------------------------
       Re: stop the cruelty of culling
   DIR By: JEFF WILSON
       Date: December 3, 2011, 8:06 am
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       i cull . and i cull very hard. its the only way to improve your
       flock. i dont feel bad about it the old guy next door loves to
       eat my culls. they dont go to waste.
       #Post#: 10140--------------------------------------------------
       Re: stop the cruelty of culling
   DIR By: scott70
       Date: December 3, 2011, 8:22 am
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       That is a good point Jeff most of us keep our lofts very clean
       and are birds very healthy so why not offer our culls as food
       there is a lot of people that would love to have them. Squab has
       been eaten around the world for years.
       #Post#: 10150--------------------------------------------------
       Re: stop the cruelty of culling
   DIR By: Fhtfire
       Date: December 3, 2011, 4:33 pm
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       This almost makes me laugh.....Really.....did you know that god
       naturally culls....its called evolution...survival of the
       fittest.  Our culling is called man made evolution.....the other
       culling is called....you cant survive....so you better change or
       you starve to death.
       Did you know that Elk are culled due to not enough food when a
       herd gets to big...do you know that they watch and watch and
       cull the weak.....
       
       We do the same thing.....Should I watch a bird bounce of the my
       roof fiffty times and is all messed up.. ....or do I say....this
       bird has a genetic flaw and needs to be culled. By the way...I
       eat my pigeons as well as my neighbors.
       Culls are often sold to BOP trainers.....Falcons eat them for
       training.....
       If you have been around animals and most don't cull then they
       are lying to you. I myself have been in animal husbandry since I
       was 7 years old....I have raised Champion Sheep, Dairy Goats,
       Hogs, Pigeons, Doves and the list goes on.....and guess
       what...>THEY ALL CULL!!    Dairy Goats that have "Fatal Flaws"
       are culled by selling for meat...same with hogs, sheep , dove
       etc.
       Are there times I have to waste one and throw it in the
       bucket...of course....
       Please dont compare and animal to a human...animals DONT HAVE
       FEELINGS>>>THEY HAVE INSTINCT......THEY CANT REASON>>>>That is
       why a pet snake WILL BITE YOU>....because to them you are just
       another life form nothing more nothing less....do your birds
       recognize you....not they recognize the food related to
       you....food and sex are what control animals... Chimps are our
       closest relatives....they make tools...they are like
       humans...but again..they dont have reason....A chimp just
       attacked a trainer whom raised him...the were 'FRIENDS" the
       article said...well....I dont know about you but I have not had
       a friend just snap and rip off one of my arms and bite the crap
       out of me out of the blue.....you see ANIMALS DO....INSTINCT is
       what kicks in...the PRIMAL SCREAM so to speak.
       I am native American...and Animals were put on this earth to
       benefit the human through companionship, food and well.....fun.
       Many think having a horse is evil and cruel..they are natural
       running free on the plains in large groups.....not fenced
       in....strapped with a saddle and carrying a human...that is
       UNNATURAL>>> but guess what we DOMESTICATED THEM....and guess
       what they are getting more food, meds, vaccines and care then
       any animal in the wild.  Same goes for our birds.....they get
       top quality food, meds, perfect breeding areas and the list goes
       on.....I bet the other pigeons....IF THEY COULD TALK AND
       UNDERSTAND AND HAVE FEELINGS>..they will say...it sucks to be
       Jonnie.....but I am glad that I can roll my ass off...I am in
       the stock loft....getting some lovely ladies.....have a
       beautiful home....and since I dont care about my young because I
       dont have feelings..(hence the reason I will mate my own
       kid)...I dont care if they get culled.....Just keep me fat and
       happy...because instinct tells me.....to stay where the food is.
       USE YOUR HEAD MAN!!
       rock and ROLL
       Paul
       By the way..like another post....I too have killed my own hog
       that I raised from a baby.....helped cut it up....and then
       wrapped it and then froze it and then ATE IT.....that my friend
       is the circle of life..that is why we have teeth...
       #Post#: 10163--------------------------------------------------
       Re: stop the cruelty of culling
   DIR By: windjammer loft
       Date: December 5, 2011, 7:35 am
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       First of all Trammell ....when I DIE.... God will have nothing
       to do with it. Secondly, when I die, I know that  I am going to
       HEAVEN....  For the simple reason  I spent over 12 months in
       Hell already.... I was in Vietnam in 1969.  So your statement
       you made "What if when you die God culls you because you didnt
       do something perfectly...." has ABSOULTLY no valitty at
       all.......I can only imagine how CRAPPY your birds are,if you
       kept every bird you bred...  Maybe you should go and join
       PETA... Put your beliefs to better use then on this site... They
       could use MORE ppl like YOU with their stupid and dumb
       beliefs...
       Here here Paul.. once again YOU nailed it .... Iaam glad we are
       both on the same side...
       #Post#: 10164--------------------------------------------------
       Re: stop the cruelty of culling
   DIR By: oldfart
       Date: December 5, 2011, 8:33 am
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       I will ride Paul's coat tails, count me in also!
       Take care my friends
       Thom
       #Post#: 10168--------------------------------------------------
       Re: stop the cruelty of culling
   DIR By: Cliff Ball
       Date: December 5, 2011, 10:28 am
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       Paul,
       When you said, "I eat my pigeons as well as my
       neighbors"...don't you think that's going a little too far? I
       have several neighbors I'd like to cull, but I don't think I
       want to eat them! LOL!
       Cliff
       #Post#: 10169--------------------------------------------------
       Re: stop the cruelty of culling
   DIR By: rookie from  ct
       Date: December 5, 2011, 10:58 am
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       LMAO   Cliff you made me spill my coffee
       #Post#: 10171--------------------------------------------------
       Re: stop the cruelty of culling
   DIR By: 2y4life
       Date: December 5, 2011, 11:55 am
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       Lol Cliff. I thought Paul's job was to rescue people...
       On a serious note, take care of yourself Paul and I hope things
       get better for you.
       Tou
       #Post#: 10172--------------------------------------------------
       Re: stop the cruelty of culling
   DIR By: RollerChief
       Date: December 5, 2011, 2:03 pm
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       How many do you want me to send you and you pay the freight?
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