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       Re: WHAT KIND OF BIRDS FLY FOR LONG HOURS
   DIR By: raul carreiro
       Date: December 3, 2011, 1:00 pm
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       Hi all, The breed that can fly the longest times in the air are
       called Competion Flying Tipplers or English tipplers! The most
       well known strains are Shannons, Hughes, Lovatts, Bodens. There
       are many other strains of good flying Tipplers avalible through
       out the world! I personaly fly Compitition Tipplers with a
       strain I acquired from Nino Bujea from Canada who hold the North
       American young bird record of 16.45hrs! Harry Shannon holds the
       Old bird world record of 22.o5hrs set in 1995! My  best time in
       the 2 years I have been flying is 14.51hrs  flown in June of
       this year. They are flown in kits of 3 or more, but most who fly
       in competition fly 3-5birds. Tipplers can be a challange as
       thier training and flying requires them to fly in the dark to
       achieve record long hrs. yes flown in the  dark! and this
       training reqiures lots of time! Its also interesting to note
       that The Tippler and Roller share  similar ancestry!
       Here is a little info on how to train and feed the birds for
       competition for those who are interested.
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       For The Novice Flyer
       By: Ken Burgess / England
       Date: Unknown
       Category: Feed-ups
       Once you have settled your tipplers that you intend and hope to
       enjoy their
       flying performance, you will select a kit of the better
       performers. I would
       suggest you try for a five bird kit in that way you will have
       lee way should
       any go off form when you approach your intended long flying day.
       I train my
       birds for about five hours every other day, weather permitting.
       The flying
       birds are housed in flying boxes about 18" square and are fed
       once a day at
       the same time of the day.
       During the training period, the birds are fed on good barley,
       not farm
       feeding barley, but good meaty malted or malting barley, dry and
       clean. The
       birds get 1 oz. of this during their evening feed, but after
       they have
       completed a training fly their ounce of barley will have the
       addition of one
       teaspoon of linseed. My birds have a cod liver oil capsule every
       Tuesday. On
       this diet, providing you have decent tipplers, your kit will fly
       well and
       look and feel good.
       If you wish to increase your flying time without going into the
       teens of
       hours, mix the barley with a percentage of wheat or white dari.
       My birds are
       always flown on an empty crop. Many fanciers are now using
       growers pellets,
       the poultry type and the birds that I have seen fed this way
       looked well and
       have flown good/very good times. It is a matter of choice, but I
       would
       suggest anyone who decides to use the pellets seek advice from
       flyers who
       have learned the hard way.
       Once you have got your kit flying as you want them to and they
       respond to
       the droppers/lights with no problems, it is time to prepare them
       for the
       day's sport. There are many feed-ups and most of the very good
       flyers have
       their own ideas, but the basic idea is to supply your kit with a
       feed that
       will give them energy and endurance properties. Your training
       flights will
       have got them fit and well. Always remember that no matter how
       well you
       train and feed your kit, they will only fly as long as their
       breeding allows
       them to, so get good birds to start with!
       Below, I will pen a few feed-ups that I have used in the past,
       with
       reasonable success. All based on a Sunday release. The last
       training flight
       being on the Wednesday prior.
       Wednesday: 1 measure (oz.) of mixed canary seed
       Thursday: 1/4 Red Rape, 1/4 Hemp, 1/4 Buckwheat, 1/4 White Dari,
       8 maple
       peas, tonic drink
       Friday: 1/4 Red Rape, 1/4 Linseed, 1/4 Mixed Canary, 1/4 Niger,
       4 Maple
       peas, tonic drink \
       Saturday: (a.m.) 1/4 mixed canary, p.m. 1/2 mixed canary, 1/2
       plain canary
       Tonic drink tablespoon of Parrish's chemical food - 1 pint of
       water One
       measure = 4 teaspoons
       Sunday: Drink of water boiled and gone cold This is a no
       nonsense old
       fashioned diet, the fancier who gave it to me years ago was a
       top flyer,
       recording 18 hours plus.
       Wednesday: 1/2 measure Tares, 1/2 measure Wheat
       Thursday: 1/4 Wheat, 1/4 Tares, 1/4 Red Band, 1/4 Hemp
       Friday: 1/4 Wheat, 1/4 Rice, 1/4 Red Band, 1/4 Peas
       Saturday: 1/4 Wheat, 1/4 Tares, 1/2 Red Band Hormoform with each
       meal
       ( 1T/S) Tonic Wed-Friday (As above) Rue Tea Monday and Tuesday
       Top Midlands Fanciers flying diet.
       There are many good flying men who prefer to feed their birds
       prior to
       release and their results would suggest that this is good
       management. It is
       up to the individual which method he adopts. the main snag I see
       is getting
       up about 2 1/2 hours earlier as the birds need about 2 hours to
       settle the
       food. After the kit has flown the day in good style and dropped
       when you
       wanted them to, I suggest you leave them for a while before
       feeding them.
       Then give each bird a little canary seed and a drink of warm
       water, with a
       little milk added. record details of the fly weather, winds,
       etc. for future
       reference.
       Note! Parrish's Chemical Food is an old time Iron Tonic. Tares
       is Vetch. Red
       Band is a mixture of whatever grains and seeds, quite popular in
       the UK.
       Hormoform is a mixture of wheat and a few other grains with cod
       liver oil
       and powdered iron all mixed together. Rue Tea is a tea made from
       the herb
       Rue which is a grass, I believe. Many of the old time flyers
       used Rue Tea in
       their feed-ups.
       #Post#: 10146--------------------------------------------------
       Re: WHAT KIND OF BIRDS FLY FOR LONG HOURS
   DIR By: raul carreiro
       Date: December 3, 2011, 1:25 pm
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       Hi All some pics of my Flying Tipplers
       #Post#: 10148--------------------------------------------------
       Re: WHAT KIND OF BIRDS FLY FOR LONG HOURS
   DIR By: raul carreiro
       Date: December 3, 2011, 1:56 pm
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       Hi all, heres a small video of the last moments before dark in a
       Friendly competition fly that I flew in that I flew 13.45hrs.
       You will note the the birds landing in the dark.
  HTML http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21yf08mF58k
  HTML http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21yf08mF58k
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