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Intelligence and the Birmingham Roller Breed
By: Tony Chavarria Date: November 29, 2011, 4:28 pm
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[font=times new roman]As it relates to the breed, is it
important for Birmingham Rollers to be intelligent? Why? How
might intelligence express itself in Birmingham Rollers? Does
intelligence make for a better roller? [/font][font=times new
roman]In wanting to explore this topic on a deeper level, I
borrowed 3 levels* involving intelligence in dogs that I ran
across in this article: [/font][font=times new roman]READ
ARTICLE
HTML http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/canine-corner/200907/canine-intelligence-breed-does-matter[/font]
[font=times new roman]1- Instinctive Intelligence: this really
refers to what a dog was bred for.[/font]
[font=times new roman]2- Adaptive Intelligence: this is
basically a measure of what a dog can learn to do for himself.
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[font=times new roman]3- Working Intelligence: it is the closest
to what we might call school-learning ability, and is based
[/font][font=times new roman]upon what the dog can learn to do
when instructed by humans.[/font]
[font=times new roman]Is it possible to apply these same types
of intelligence's to the Birmingham Roller? What behaviors and
acts of intelligence can you identify and under which type would
you classify them? Would any of this be helpful toward breeding
better rollers? Can you provide some explanation?[/font]
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Re: Intelligence and the Birmingham Roller Breed
By: lew3015 Date: November 29, 2011, 10:32 pm
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Tony I can tell you that birminghams are smart, I have seen,
with my own eyes, in fact, I was standing right next to it, a
roller fly full speed, right into a large pine tree, with a
coopers hot on it's tail, and hide, so they didn't get eaten. I
have also seen a roller fly down into a ditch to get away from a
coopers and get under a fallen log, in order to hide, than not
come out for 2 days, where would they have learned them tricks
from. now I would call that pretty smart.
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Re: Intelligence and the Birmingham Roller Breed
By: Tony Chavarria Date: November 30, 2011, 4:46 pm
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DOH! this is a hard one! ??? Someone must have more examples
of intelligence in Birmingham Rollers??? ;D
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Re: Intelligence and the Birmingham Roller Breed
By: raul carreiro Date: November 30, 2011, 5:40 pm
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Hi Tony, I dont believe the example of Instinctive Intelligence
as is refered to dogs can be used in Birmingham rollers in
my honest opinion. Even though rollers are bred to roll it is
not an instinct! But rather a fault being bred for and
perpetuated. For example it is an natural instinct for herding
dog breeds to herd. This herding instinct is really nothing more
than a remanant trait left from the wolve to stalk its
prey.Most good lines of herding dogs need not have had previous
herding training before taking naturaly to herding only trained
how to properly herd. Adaptive intelligence in rollers can be
how a bird learns how to handle the roll, or "learns" at what
depth to roll according to their altitude of flight! I have seen
this adaptive intelligence many times in the Rubys. In my case I
have seen them perform at their peak anywhere from 25 -45ft
deep.fast rolls when flying at heights between 200-400 ft, and
the same birds only do 1-3 flipps while coming in or flying at
less than 80ft! Of course there are exceptions.
Working Itelligence in my opinion has do with flier/breeder
learning and teaching himself how to get the best out of what is
bred into his birds! How many times has one heard that Jack
bought some birds from Jills line who won the World Cup etc
bring them home breed them or fly them and cant get these
flavour of the year birds to do jack shit:-)
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Re: Intelligence and the Birmingham Roller Breed
By: chesley l warren Date: November 30, 2011, 7:45 pm
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don"t know much about the IQ of a roller lessen 5 month old
that i still have as of this message, but his first day out kit
box was rollin acting crazy.He crashes to the ground every time
he's released. Now he's had more lifes than a house cat. Today
i watched him fall spinning at lest 250', down i rushed out
to see if i could catch or break his fall some,but he fell
almost on my shoes. I looked at the DA, reached for him and he
was airborne again., Theres no education in the second kick of a
mule, and i cant fix stupid. When he finnaly hits the loft top,
then i think his trainning and intelligence will be displayed.
Just my sumation!!! Chesley
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