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       #Post#: 10044--------------------------------------------------
       how to train 40 birds in one coop.
   DIR By: trammell
       Date: November 29, 2011, 9:08 am
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       Hi,
       I just bought 40 birds, all are 2011 birds, but some older
       than others, none over 10 months. i have them in a 8 by 8 foot
       coop they have plenty of room to fly around.....
       Now my problem is the number of birds to control. ive had them
       locked away for about 2 months they are trained to the feed
       call..... how do i train 40 birds to use and know the trap. i
       one day want them all in the air all at once and videos ive seen
       it can be done but how...... please help...
       E-Mail: mailto:marvintrammell87@yahoo.com
       PHONE: 312-7283....
       i really need some help
       THANX
       #Post#: 10045--------------------------------------------------
       Re: how to train 40 birds in one coop.
   DIR By: scott70
       Date: November 29, 2011, 9:20 am
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       I would say start training a few at a time if you let out 40
       birds at one time as old as they are you could loss a lot or all
       of them then when you get them trained you can fly them all
       together
       #Post#: 10047--------------------------------------------------
       Re: how to train 40 birds in one coop.
   DIR By: 2y4life
       Date: November 29, 2011, 9:47 am
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       There's a couple things you could do. If you have had them for 2
       months, my first question is "Can they see their surroundings
       from inside their coop/kitbox?" If so, you might not have to do
       much trap training. If they can't see their surrounding, a
       training cage would be your best shot.
       
       For a training cage, all you do is attach it to the outside of
       the kitbox. It can go right outside of where your trap door is
       and is sometimes helpful if it can go over the top of your
       kitbox/coop.
       
       Here are a few useful links to previous posts about trap
       training and settling cages. Read through these and you will
       find your answers:
       
       
  HTML http://www.roller-pigeon.com/board/board_topic/859782/607993.htm
       
       
  HTML http://www.roller-pigeon.com/board/board_topic/859782/384594.htm
       #Post#: 10048--------------------------------------------------
       Re: how to train 40 birds in one coop.
   DIR By: OldSkool
       Date: November 29, 2011, 9:50 am
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       I'd say a settling cage that would fit the 40 birds comfortably
       - Build it so it has the trap door available to them - and let
       them learn it on their own - when all the birds are comfortably
       using it - then it's time to release them - then they also can
       witness their outside surroundings for that time period ---
       That's what I'd try with that many - I personally breed My own
       and train by hand - setting them up by the traps from the day
       they open their eyes and can't yet fly - and they catch on - but
       with older birds I believe a settling cage would be best .....
       Mike
       #Post#: 10049--------------------------------------------------
       Re: how to train 40 birds in one coop.
   DIR By: michael salus
       Date: November 29, 2011, 9:54 am
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       Marvin,  First thing I would do is divide the loft into at
       least 2 sections and make two kits of 20. There are many ways to
       train older birds.... I have a wire cage that will hold 10
       birds. I put the cage on top of the kit box and then my garage
       which is close to the kit box. I do this for 3 or 4 days. Then I
       put the birds in the kit box don't feed them at all for 1 day
       and open the trap, so they can come out if they want. By the way
       every day when they are done on the roof in the cage , I put
       them thru the trap, so they learn to trap. When you think they
       are ready open the trap and let them out. Never chase them, let
       them do their thing and when ready, whistle them in  or shake
       the feed can . Some have a wire cage that goes over trap and
       then goes onto the roof of the kit box. The birds can come and
       go out of the trap and on the roof on their own. I never had one
       and didn't build one, so I just used my cage. Both systems will
       work. Maybe someone on here has pictures of one that they can
       post. Be PATIENT!! It's Very important.  1st, Cut the kit in
       half .  Good luck,  Mike... good place to ask questions..
       #Post#: 10051--------------------------------------------------
       Re: how to train 40 birds in one coop.
   DIR By: trammell
       Date: November 29, 2011, 11:11 am
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       thanx for all the help..... #Superior Spinners. ive devided the
       coop into two and yes they can see their surroundings when they
       go out into the trap.  i also lock them out there sometime for
       an hour or so and call them in and they come rushing. but does
       that mean when i let them out they will kno how to come through
       the door to get back in....?
       every morning i wake up they are all chillin in the trap so i
       know they have diffidently figured it out................
       sometime i see on you tube these guys have like 30 birds on the
       roof and there like coaching the birds into the trap whats that
       about
       and someone els told me to just open the coop and just let the
       birds come and go as they please all day for a week? ??? ??? ?
       does that work foreal.
       please help me guys
       --- Quote from: superior spinners link ---
       > Marvin,  First thing I would do is divide the loft into at
       least 2 sections and make two kits of 20. There are many ways to
       train older birds.... I have a wire cage that will hold 10
       birds. I put the cage on top of the kit box and then my garage
       which is close to the kit box. I do this for 3 or 4 days. Then I
       put the birds in the kit box don't feed them at all for 1 day
       and open the trap, so they can come out if they want. By the way
       every day when they are done on the roof in the cage , I put
       them thru the trap, so they learn to trap. When you think they
       are ready open the trap and let them out. Never chase them, let
       them do their thing and when ready, whistle them in  or shake
       the feed can . Some have a wire cage that goes over trap and
       then goes onto the roof of the kit box. The birds can come and
       go out of the trap and on the roof on their own. I never had one
       and didn't build one, so I just used my cage. Both systems will
       work. Maybe someone on here has pictures of one that they can
       post. Be PATIENT!! It's Very important.  1st, Cut the kit in
       half .  Good luck,  Mike... good place to ask questions..
       >
       >
       > what if when i open the trap they all just go back into the
       coop?
       >
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       #Post#: 10052--------------------------------------------------
       Re: how to train 40 birds in one coop.
   DIR By: rtwilliams
       Date: November 29, 2011, 11:58 am
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       If they are going in and out of a trap then they have that part
       figured out They are kinds pretty smart. Since you have had them
       at your place for a couple months I would say they are ready to
       fly. Keep them hungry and let them out. They know where food is
       and will stick around. Let them be comfortable being free. Do
       not spook or chase them up for a week or so. After that I would
       start taking them for little walks so they get in shape and
       start flying for longer time periods.
       Be consistant with fly time and behaviors you want. They get in
       a habit and that is what thye like to do, that includes fly
       time, I swear they have built in clocks. good luck
       #Post#: 10053--------------------------------------------------
       Re: how to train 40 birds in one coop.
   DIR By: trammell
       Date: November 29, 2011, 12:12 pm
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       so i shouldnt scare them even if they are just sitting
       there.......... i let ten of them out and they all just followed
       eachother to the grass and started picking around just let them
       do that or what?
       #rtwilliams.... what do you mean take them on little walks? i
       dont understand what you mean...........
       #Post#: 10054--------------------------------------------------
       Re: how to train 40 birds in one coop.
   DIR By: michael salus
       Date: November 29, 2011, 12:48 pm
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       Marvin,  It sounds like your letting the birds out and about
       already, if so it's time to start flagging.  Get a stick, pole
       or something long and put a piece of cloth on the end. When you
       let them out "flag" them right away, don't let the sit on the
       roof. Once you get them in the air, let them land if they want
       to . Make sure they land only on the loft. no trees or wires.
       The 1st couple of times they wouldn't fly long, but thats
       alright. They will fly longer each time you do this. Remember
       flag them as soon as they come out, that way they will take to
       the air as soon as they get out, once they get that habit, they
       will be easy to take to the air.
       #Post#: 10057--------------------------------------------------
       Re: how to train 40 birds in one coop.
   DIR By: Kevin Thao
       Date: November 29, 2011, 8:41 pm
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       Once u get them out on the grass you can let them be for at
       least 2 days then its time to start flagging them(flagging is
       already explained below).what  rtwilliams mean by taking them on
       walks is when u get them flying and see their surroundings,you
       should take them down the street or just at your front yard(but
       not too far) and release them.
       Kevin
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