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       #Post#: 9765--------------------------------------------------
       pigeon bobs
   DIR By: scott70
       Date: October 30, 2011, 3:49 am
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       I am getting ready to build 3 new kit boxs and need to find the
       best place to buy a couple sets or if ther is some one on here
       getting out of pigeons and want to sell a set let me know thanks
       #Post#: 9766--------------------------------------------------
       Re: pigeon bobs
   DIR By: oldfart
       Date: October 30, 2011, 5:44 am
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       Hey Scott, Consider using a drop trap instead. A 4" P.V.C. 45%
       fitting will let the birds in, keep them from getting back out
       and best of all most preditors can not fit through.
       Take care my friend
       Thom
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       Re: pigeon bobs
   DIR By: buttertup
       Date: October 31, 2011, 9:12 am
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       necessity breeds genius. ;D
       #Post#: 9782--------------------------------------------------
       Re: pigeon bobs
   DIR By: maxspin
       Date: October 31, 2011, 10:14 am
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       I replaced all of my bobs with the 4" 45% PVC a couple of years
       ago. The birds show a clear preference to the pipe fittings over
       the bobs. I have never had a bird get out of the pipe fitting,
       but have seen birds get out of bobs often.
       Keith
       #Post#: 9788--------------------------------------------------
       Re: pigeon bobs
   DIR By: scott70
       Date: October 31, 2011, 11:41 am
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       Thanks Again mr Thom alot cheaper also
       #Post#: 9793--------------------------------------------------
       Re: pigeon bobs
   DIR By: Cliff Ball
       Date: October 31, 2011, 2:25 pm
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       Keith,
       Is it harder to trap train the young with the drop traps? With
       the bobs, I raise them and let the youngsters go in and out the
       trap so they get used to it. How do you handle that with drop
       traps?
       Cliff
       #Post#: 9796--------------------------------------------------
       Re: pigeon bobs
   DIR By: markmidmo
       Date: October 31, 2011, 4:46 pm
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       I use the good old fashioned drop down method.  I have a panel
       in the top of the flight cage that opens.   I open it about 1' x
       1' when they are squeakers and put them on top of the cage.
       They figure out really quick how to get down into the pen.
       Once they are trained (usually a couple days) I close it down to
       about 4 x 6 hole and that's it!
       I was surprised how little the hole can be and still work.  I
       have closed it down to 4 x 4 and they still go in, but I feel
       better leaving them a little extra room.  Since the hole is in
       the top of the pen I've not had anything else come into the
       loft.  Most varmits don't want to drop straight down.
       The beauty of my setup is that I can close up the loft, leave
       the "trap" open and go away.  Any late arrivals (or in the case
       of the other day hawk attack that scatters the birds) can still
       get into the flight pen and are safe until I return.
       #Post#: 9803--------------------------------------------------
       Re: pigeon bobs
   DIR By: maxspin
       Date: November 1, 2011, 8:36 am
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       Cliff,
       I have a small settling cage that I can push the young birds
       through it the first time or two. 2' x 2' X 1' It usually only
       takes twice. Once you have some older birds that are trapping,
       they teach the younger ones. May only have to help them through
       once. Once they trap you can use bigger settling traps that let
       them get on top of the box where you can't reach them.
       Keith
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       Re: pigeon bobs
   DIR By: Cliff Ball
       Date: November 1, 2011, 11:40 am
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       Thanks, Keith...and Mark...
       Cliff
       #Post#: 9819--------------------------------------------------
       Re: pigeon bobs
   DIR By: chesley l warren
       Date: November 1, 2011, 10:00 pm
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       i needed another troap,saw your suggestion about the 4'' pipe&45
       0/0.built one,run a bird through it, worked, but i was uneasy
       about the open pipe! I took a cd put a srew on left side that
       held it to the door openning,run a screw from behind the cd on
       the right side into a piced of dowel to make an attachment so as
       to rotate cd to the left to open up the trap. cd flsh also ward
       off bop.thanks for your input."chess"
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