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       #Post#: 9638--------------------------------------------------
       BOP 
   DIR By: Sound Rollers
       Date: October 22, 2011, 9:40 am
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       Well, I opened the kit box door this morning for the first time
       to allow for acclimation before I put them up.  They have been
       in and out of the box via a fly pen for more than a week now.
       So I'm in the kitchen pouring a cup of coffee, look out the
       window just in time to see an accipiter, maybe a goshawk or a
       coopers, I'm not sure, kill one of my rollers. Needless to say I
       shut the kit box door. I'm waiting for three more to trap in.
       Just thought I would share this bit of bad news.
       Dennis, if you read this, please call me.
       John
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       Re: BOP 
   DIR By: Tony Chavarria
       Date: October 22, 2011, 10:49 am
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       Ouch!
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       Re: BOP 
   DIR By: Sound Rollers
       Date: October 22, 2011, 7:05 pm
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       So this is how domestic my rollers are; the 3 birds birds I
       mentioned in my earlier post begged me to get them in to the kit
       box, It was like letting in the dog. They were scared as hell.
       What am I going to do.
       John
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       Re: BOP 
   DIR By: donnie james
       Date: October 22, 2011, 8:13 pm
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       hay john,
       sorry to hear about your lost ..................donnie james
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       Re: BOP 
   DIR By: Sound Rollers
       Date: October 23, 2011, 5:46 pm
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       Is this a bad time of the year for flying Rollers?
       #Post#: 9662--------------------------------------------------
       Re: BOP 
   DIR By: oldfart
       Date: October 23, 2011, 6:07 pm
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       Hey John, I am sorry about your bird but yes this is a bad time
       for anyone who lives in the hawks migratory corridors or have
       local hawks. The locals are teaching their young to hunt and if
       they find your kit box will return as long as they get food. The
       problem lies in that you have no choice but to fly if your birds
       are ever going to improve. I will speak about the little I have
       learned about hawks. Never fly early morning or late evening but
       try if possible for mid morning or early afternoon. Never leave
       your birds while they are on the kit box or landing as these are
       the most dangerious times for an attack. Yelling and screaming
       will sometimes cause the hawk to break off an attack. I bang two
       short pices of 2x4" together to simulate "a loud banging noise"
       :) The best defense is a good offense, train your birds not to
       sit on the box but to trap as soon as they land. Keep your birds
       locked down for a week and the hawk might go away.
       Take care
       Thom
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       Re: BOP 
   DIR By: Joe Asaro
       Date: October 23, 2011, 6:41 pm
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       --- Quote from: oldfart link ---
       >
       > Hey John, I am sorry about your bird but yes this is a bad
       time for anyone who lives in the hawks migratory corridors or
       have local hawks. The locals are teaching their young to hunt
       and if they find your kit box will return as long as they get
       food. The problem lies in that you have no choice but to fly if
       your birds are ever going to improve. I will speak about the
       little I have learned about hawks. Never fly early morning or
       late evening but try if possible for mid morning or early
       afternoon. Never leave your birds while they are on the kit box
       or landing as these are the most dangerious times for an attack.
       Yelling and screaming will sometimes cause the hawk to break off
       an attack. I bang two short pices of 2x4" together to simulate
       "a loud banging noise" :) The best defense is a good offense,
       train your birds not to sit on the box but to trap as soon as
       they land. Keep your birds locked down for a week and the hawk
       might go away.
       > Take care
       > Thom
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Also Walmart sporting goods has boating air horn's that work
       very well at turning an attacking hawk. >:( That we have to do
       thing like this to fly our birds in our back yards. :( Joe
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       Re: BOP 
   DIR By: rookie from  ct
       Date: October 24, 2011, 9:29 am
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       Sorry for your loss John ,I stopped flying every day because i
       lost 7 birds in 5 weeks so i only will fly on cloudy over cast
       day ,seem to be less BOP hunting.I am not sure if its the locals
       teaching there young as Thom said or the migrating ones grabbing
       a fast meal just know to check the sky's good before opening any
       kit box door. Dennis
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       Re: BOP 
   DIR By: Tony Chavarria
       Date: October 24, 2011, 10:12 am
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       How about this, I have a section of the hen pen that I
       uncovered. Its been a few weeks like this. I have had a hawk go
       after my kit birds 2 times in the last several days and just
       about capture one of my birds (came close enough to have pulled
       8 tail feathers). About 9am I am looking out my backdoor window
       when I see a hawk making straight for a bird sitting on the
       inside of the hen pen behind some 1/4 wire. At the last possible
       moment, the hawk veers up to avoid hitting the wire. Pigeon had
       NO idea she was being swooped on. The hawk flies over the loft,
       veers to the north tree line and is outta sight in no time.
       Time to put the metal siding back over the wire for the Fall and
       Winter seasons (remove the target from site) and cut back on
       flying the kits for a week or two. Have a feeling this one will
       hang around if I don't take such measures. He needs to forget
       there are any birds out there. I do this by completely covering
       the pens, locking down the birds and not letting the chickens
       run loose for a week or two. I have only been seeing the one, so
       hopefully there is not a mate around.
       Never ends... :(
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