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       #Post#: 9316--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is It Always Wise To Cull?
   DIR By: OldSkool
       Date: October 8, 2011, 5:15 pm
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       Wow - Only someone whom has done and had this experience would
       think of such a thing - Your a sick SOB - Enough Said - Mike
       >:(
       #Post#: 9317--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is It Always Wise To Cull?
   DIR By: joeb
       Date: October 8, 2011, 5:26 pm
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       Never done it but I know some young guys that couldn't bear to
       do it humanely that did just that. Enough mindless banter!! My
       last post on this subject unless someone has something
       meaningful to post.
       Keep em spinning :D
       Joe B
       #Post#: 9318--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is It Always Wise To Cull?
   DIR By: tom wingfield
       Date: October 8, 2011, 6:55 pm
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       befor anyone culls ,   i would advise to learn the differance of
       bad  mangement from what a cull really is .
       #Post#: 9319--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is It Always Wise To Cull?
   DIR By: joeb
       Date: October 8, 2011, 7:01 pm
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       Sound advice Tom
       Keep em spinning
       Joe B
       #Post#: 9320--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is It Always Wise To Cull?
   DIR By: Sound Rollers
       Date: October 8, 2011, 7:03 pm
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       So what some of you are saying is; before you would add some
       antibiotics to the drinking water you would twist the neck of
       the great 514 hen?  :o
       
       Cull a lame bird, YES. Cull a sick bird, NO not without a
       fighting chance.
       
       John
       #Post#: 9321--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is It Always Wise To Cull?
   DIR By: Tony Chavarria
       Date: October 8, 2011, 8:13 pm
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       Hi John, I am not sure that everyone understands and truly
       appreciates the value of such a bird like a "514". Too many
       flippant responses. This indicates to me they likely never
       actually have had a pre-potent bird before and do not realize
       the impact such a bird can have over years, even decades.  8)
       --
       To All: On a different note, I will say this one time, stop
       trying to win a debate with nothing more than your opinion and
       being clever.  :-\  Back up what you say with facts and figures
       or years of experience, I do not like the bickering between
       individuals site members who have little experience in the hobby
       vs long time fanciers. If you want to argue the point from
       ignorance, you will be banned. Simple. I don't have time to
       monitor every dispute. Its easier for me and the site to let you
       go. The site will survive your absence.  ;)
       If you feel you need to argue this with me, that will be your
       last post here. If I can ban Scott Campbell for a year, I can
       certainly ban you too. Thank you for your cooperation! ;D
       #Post#: 9322--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is It Always Wise To Cull?
   DIR By: Tony Chavarria
       Date: October 8, 2011, 8:17 pm
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       Hi Paul, no, you were not set up. I explained in my initial post
       to start this thread that you merely inspired the thought in me.
       I did not blame you or set you up. Come on Paul, you know me
       better than that.   :D  New ideas are generated all the time
       through general discussion, that I gave you credit for the
       inspiration is a primary feather in your cap... :D
       #Post#: 9323--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is It Always Wise To Cull?
   DIR By: joeb
       Date: October 8, 2011, 10:47 pm
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       John, As I said earlier, if you can isolate, diagnose and treat
       the bird successfully then by all means give it a try. If you
       can not do that, you could be risking all the birds in your
       loft. Is it really worth the gamble. Personally, I don't think
       so but that is just my opinion based on many years of trying to
       save ill or injured birds.
       Keep em spinning :D
       Joe B
       #Post#: 9325--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is It Always Wise To Cull?
   DIR By: windjammer loft
       Date: October 9, 2011, 7:57 am
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       Thanks Tony...........I guess I just jumped the gun, so to
       speak.  I will retract my comment about the set up thing.  But,
       as I read the post from Clint, we are talking about a "sick"
       bird and nothing else. I "just" don't mess around with "sick"
       birds..... period....
       Iam not trying to set anyone "OFF"..  I don't preach this to
       anyone.  It's just my belief..
       
       I also agree with joeb's "Personal" opinion in his last post .
       #Post#: 9328--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is It Always Wise To Cull?
   DIR By: tom wingfield
       Date: October 9, 2011, 10:33 am
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       i,ve doctored many sick birds over the yrs.   not many come to
       mind made it and not many that made it where not culled in the
       end for one reason ot the other.... i will do what i can but not
       at the expence of loseing more... for some odd reason this yr.
       i,ve lost 5 or 6 young after i put them in the kit box , there
       nest mate did fine and they died  ??
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