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Re: Is It Always Wise To Cull?
By: Sound Rollers Date: October 8, 2011, 9:53 am
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I plan on culling some of my rollers and give them to a friend,
ALIVE!
John
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Re: Is It Always Wise To Cull?
By: joeb Date: October 8, 2011, 10:29 am
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John,
Everyone views culling a little different. Since we can't neuter
pigeons like we can other species passing undesirables on to
others does not cleanse the gene pool. Serious breeders cull
hard, it is not enjoyable but I believe you owe it to the breed
to be ruthless in eliminating undesirable traits from the breed.
JMHO.
Keep em spinning
Joe B
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Re: Is It Always Wise To Cull?
By: OldSkool Date: October 8, 2011, 10:42 am
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John - I agree with You - " One Man's Junk Is another man's
treasure " I learned with " Junk " birds not junk if You learn
with them and it's better to make mistakes with them birds
rather than birds You purchased for a lot of money - I explain
this to the folks that I give them to which are usually new
folks to begin with - You see Joe seems to forget along with
others where they once started and now assume anything rookies
say or do is wrong - Just because not all of us do things by the
roller man's book we are wrong - I am out to do the hobby /
sport some good and breed as many pretty birds that can spin
without killing and perform plain and simple - and i will teach
, My Children , The neighbors Children and anyone else how to do
it the humane way as well - Mike
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Re: Is It Always Wise To Cull?
By: joeb Date: October 8, 2011, 11:38 am
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Have not forgotten where I started as I was given quality birds
from reputable breeders when I started. They taught me to cull
hard! To get back on topic I would cull 514 if she had a disease
that could be transmitted to the rest of the loft!!
Keep em spinning ;D
Joe B
#Post#: 9310--------------------------------------------------
Re: Is It Always Wise To Cull?
By: OldSkool Date: October 8, 2011, 1:37 pm
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joeb - Good point but not everyone is / or was as fortunate as
yourself to get those types of birds - with time I eventually
did so - personally I would deny someone giving me good birds -
as a beginner I hadn't a clue what I was doing and why accept
top quality birds only to wreck or lose them ? Keep them
spinning - Mike
#Post#: 9311--------------------------------------------------
Re: Is It Always Wise To Cull?
By: windjammer loft Date: October 8, 2011, 2:04 pm
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First of all I can't believe that other guys don't cull sick
birds or cull at all. I didn't know that I was going to open
up a can of worms with my respose to the original post. I kinda
feel "set up" here.... I agree 110% with my friend J_Star. I
raised pigeons for the majority of my life and have always
practiced the method of culling ANY sick bird regardless of
what.... Birds are too expandable.... It is just my way of
"keeping" a clean house. And it "IS" black or white to me.
It's like saying she "almost" got pregnent. You either are
pregnent or your "NOT". Plain and simple.
#Post#: 9312--------------------------------------------------
Re: Is It Always Wise To Cull?
By: OldSkool Date: October 8, 2011, 2:26 pm
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windjammer - If you have the time to care for a sick bird why
not help it - I do understand there are certain situations where
it's unavoidable - I also don't want to argue about everything
either - In rollers we all choose our own paths - But the last
couple posts that Tony has put up both push my buttons and get
me going - I feel to many cull birds to quickly - plain and
simple - I feel - doesn't mean everyone has to and I know most
do cull alot - but not me and I still feel I can compete without
doing so - Mike
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Re: Is It Always Wise To Cull?
By: joeb Date: October 8, 2011, 2:36 pm
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Paul,
Like you I have always followed the practice of actually culling
the sick, lame and lazy. Yes, culling does mean killing as I
believe passing your trash off to someone else is not culling.
Rolldowns usually cull themselves. Non-kitters, tree sitters,
early landers, etc all meet an early demise. If you don't do i,
you will be soon be overloaded with trash. I think 98% of the
guys on here understand that. The other 2% will sooner or later
if they stick with the hobby. :D
Keep em spinning
Joe B
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Re: Is It Always Wise To Cull?
By: OldSkool Date: October 8, 2011, 2:48 pm
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Never , I'll always be that 2% - lol ;D - Mike
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Re: Is It Always Wise To Cull?
By: joeb Date: October 8, 2011, 4:37 pm
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Yeah, you probably will be if you stick around long enough. You
will be covered up with trash and no one will take them off your
hands so you will go down to the local elevator and release them
thinking that is more humane. But if you hang around the
elevator you will be able to watch them starve as they don't
know how to fend for themselves.
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