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       #Post#: 8954--------------------------------------------------
       Region 1D Qualifying Round
       By: Cliff Ball Date: September 18, 2011, 7:48 pm
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       [font=arial]Here are the scores for region 1D's  20-bird
       regionals judged by Jay Yandle:[/font]
       [font=arial]1st    Cliff Ball #1 (Qualifier)  Q=1.4 D=1.3
       Score= 420.42[/font]
       [font=arial]2nd  Joe Bob Stuka              Q=1.3 D=1.3  Score=
       234.91[/font]
       [font=arial]3rd    Dennis Cook                Q=1.2 D=1.3
       Score= 168.48[/font]
       [font=arial]4th    Steve Meyers              Q=1.3 D=1.2  Score=
       92.04[/font]
       [font=arial]5th    Clay Hoyle                    Q=1.4 D=1.1
       Score=  61.6[/font]
       [font=arial]6th    Joe Mitchell                  Q=1.2 D=1.3
       Score=  32.76[/font]
       [font=arial]DQ[/font]
       [font=arial]Dennis White[/font]
       [font=arial]Cliff Ball #2[/font]
       [font=arial]Wendall Carter[/font]
       [font=arial]DNF[/font]
       [font=arial]Charlie Stack[/font]
       Region 1D National Championship 11-bird Qualifying Round,
       judged by Cliff Ball:
       
       Clay Hoyle (qualifed)        329 pts.
       Joe Bob Stuka                  243 pts.
       Dennis White                    221 pts.
       Jay Yandle #1                  181 pts.
       Dennis Cook                    157 pts.
       Jay Yandle #2                    88 pts.
       Wendall Carter                  DQ
       Darrell Dennis                    DQ
       Joe Mitchell                       DNF
       Charlie Stack                     DNF
       Ron Abernathy                  DNF
       #Post#: 8961--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Region 1D Qualifying Round
       By: JEFF WILSON Date: September 19, 2011, 8:37 pm
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       way to go cliff
       #Post#: 8962--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Region 1D Qualifying Round
       By: Cliff Ball Date: September 19, 2011, 9:59 pm
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       Thanks, Jeff. This same team won our World Cup Regionals in the
       Spring. Now if I can just keep them together a few more weeks!
       Cliff
       #Post#: 8976--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Region 1D Qualifying Round
       By: JEFF WILSON Date: September 20, 2011, 9:37 pm
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       Sounds like things are going you'r way hang in there cliff .best
       of luck
       #Post#: 9005--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Region 1D Qualifying Round
       By: Paul Conway Date: September 24, 2011, 10:15 am
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       Congrats Cliff!!  and congrats to all.    Good luck, I'll keep a
       good thought for you.  Paul Conway
       #Post#: 9012--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Region 1D Qualifying Round
       By: Cliff Ball Date: September 24, 2011, 8:01 pm
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       I appreciate your good wishes, Paul.
       Cliff
       #Post#: 9255--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Region 1D Qualifying Round
       By: smeyers Date: October 3, 2011, 7:48 am
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       I am happy for you and wish your birds do well you have put a
       lot into this. But on the other hand again still no
       communication between any of us if you all were firemen all you
       would save is the footers. When you all left my place you and
       Jay Y told me you would keep me updated as to how others did. A
       phone call would have been nice or at least an EM. It is like I
       have been saying our region is very selective to a chosen few.
       Anyway good luck give them hell.
       #Post#: 9256--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Region 1D Qualifying Round
       By: Cliff Ball Date: October 3, 2011, 8:50 am
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       Steve,
       Thanks for the good wishes for our region in the finals. I hope
       this team will represent our region well. As to the
       communication ( and friendship), I have found that it works best
       when it goes both ways. The more interest you show in others by
       getting out and attending their flies.... by calling others to
       find out what is happening in the region...the more others will
       call you, and the more communication is shared. If you feel
       slighted, yet you stay at home and don't get out to other guy's
       houses when they fly....and you sit around and wait for others
       to call you and come to see your birds...you will tend to be
       left out at times. There is NOBODY in ANY region, our own
       included, who has that luxury.  I have judged six states from
       Michigan to Florida since I left your house, and all the while
       trying to keep the comp team in shape, battling with the World
       Cup Executive Committee to try to get a Performance Standard in
       place, and written two articles for the NBRC Bulletin. So, like
       you, I stay pretty busy. Yet I have had Tim Rakes, Wendall, and
       other guys come by to fly birds on weekends when I'm home. (and
       believe it or not I still find time to keep my lady happy and
       content! LOL!) So, for me, forgetting to call someone doesn't
       mean that I don't value their friendship, and my good friends
       know that. I have enjoyed getting out to your place to see your
       birds for the World Cup and the NBRC Championship each year, and
       you are steadily improving with those Jacs, every year. (I
       really liked those white birds off that red-mottle pair in this
       year's kit!) Hopefully you will be interested enough in others
       to return that favor and get out to some of the other guys, to
       see our birds, and support the region in that way as well. Have
       a good fall and winter and don't feed that kit to the hawks!
       Yours in the Sport,
       Cliff
       #Post#: 9258--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Region 1D Qualifying Round
       By: 2y4life Date: October 3, 2011, 9:16 am
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       I am happy for you and wish your birds do well you have put a
       lot into this. But on the other hand again still no
       communication between any of us if you all were firemen all you
       would save is the footers. When you all left my place you and
       Jay Y told me you would keep me updated as to how others did. A
       phone call would have been nice or at least an EM. It is like I
       have been saying our region is very selective to a chosen few.
       Anyway good luck give them hell.
       Hi Steve. I am a new flyer like yourself but am probably alot
       further behind than you are as I've yet to actually compete.
       What I will say about your post is that you cannot wait for all
       the guys in your region to get in contact with you and call you
       or email you about alot of things because like you, they're
       probably very busy with alot of things.
       As the new guy (which I am myself), you must put yourself out
       there. Send out the emails, make the phone calls, stay in
       constant communication. It is not a good idea to call out your
       regional members on a public forum like this UNLESS you've tried
       to get in contact with them and none of them have gotten back to
       you.
       I will let you know this, you are very lucky to be in flying in
       your region. While I may live in Wisconsin, I know this because
       I was there. I visited Joe Bob Stuka, Jay Yandle, Cliff Ball,
       and Clay Hoyle. Everyone was very accommodating and I had never
       met or really talked with any of these men with the exception of
       Cliff Ball. They let me into their lofts, gave me advice, and
       basically every guy I visited offered me birds (and I accepted).
       The point of this post is to let you know that you must put alot
       of effort into this hobby to get what you want out of it.
       I've traveled to Minnesota making the 3-6 hour drives twice to
       make the rounds and get to meet the guys. By doing so, the
       fellas in both WI and MN know that I am serious about this
       hobby. I call my RD for the fly schedules and then the fly
       reports EVEN THOUGH I DIDN'T FLY because I want to know when
       everyone is flying so I can go and see the guys AND so I know
       what the outcome is. Again, you have to make some effort too.
       You can't sit back and wait for your RD to contact you. If you
       want to know something, go out and seek it. It will benefit you
       in the long run Steve.
       I hope you didn't take anything that happened or didn't happen
       to heart but I do hope you take this post to heart. From one
       relatively new guy to another, if we show we are serious in
       wanting to gain friendships in the hobby, we shall receive it.
       Good luck Steve and don't give up on those guys yet. I live
       over 1000miles away yet whenever I call Joe Bob or Clay or Jay
       or Cliff, when they do pick up, they give me their time of day
       so you just gotta keep chugging.
       Yours in our hobby,
       Tou Yang
       #Post#: 9407--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Region 1D Qualifying Round
       By: smeyers Date: October 12, 2011, 8:00 am
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       First let me say I am sorry for looking at my thoughts on this
       region with on e set of eyes. After hearing others on this
       subject I now see I am wroung in the way I have been thinking.
       When I first got into this hobby I spent my first two years with
       you and others going to everyone's lofts to include yours a
       bunch of times. I also went to Joe Mitchells many times and also
       Chucks, and Wendals and Charlie Stack. Many times to Tim Rakes
       Lofts and Danny Horners Lofts mainly because of they are so
       close. I have enjoyed every visit I made to everyone's Lofts and
       you all are right if I want to be a part of the Regional I
       should get more involved and I will do just that. If I have
       caused anyone any problems and made anyone upset I am sorry this
       was not my intent. I just wanted to be part of something and I
       was going at it in the wrong way. If there is anything I can do
       let me know, I will also keep the line of communication open on
       my end. I am seriously thinking of putting on a Fall BQ at my
       place on my dime if all is intrested I can make it happen.
       Sorry Again
       Steve Meyers
       [email]Smeyerssr@aol.com[/email]
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