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       #Post#: 8701--------------------------------------------------
       true breeders
   DIR By: 1fly1time
       Date: August 22, 2011, 7:37 pm
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       So many people think they know the concept. Of
       breeding pigeos.yea anybody can breed pigeons. My
       brothers kid can do this but if you don't know genetics?then I'm
       here to tell you
       You have no clue what your doing in your loft.a true breeder
       Can breed anything if they know this.I've been fortunate
       To know a few of these guys who been around pigeons their whole
       Life one who knew pensom and one who knew rollers to a tee.
       Growing up I've seen a lot of kits and the best that a kit
       Could perform.cornell norwood.mike curtis.and my brother randy
       barron
       these guys could breed a pair of birds and tell you before they
       wpuld tell you what color what type
       And e.t.c. that's knowing genetics!
       #Post#: 8707--------------------------------------------------
       Re: true breeders
   DIR By: donnie james
       Date: August 23, 2011, 3:06 pm
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       you know same of the guys don't care about genetics i'm a few
       years into it makes no difference to me and theirs a lot to
       learn about the birds ........................donnie james
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       Re: true breeders
   DIR By: samir
       Date: August 23, 2011, 3:54 pm
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       Biology and Genetics were a major part in my formal profesional
       education and it was great aid to understand writings of Levi,
       Hollander and Quinn.
       Solid knowledge of genetics will definitly increase one breeder
       skills, but lack of it does not put you in a grave disadvantage.
       
       IMHO there are two keys to succes in this hoby.  One is love for
       the breed you working on and the other is strong personal
       character of the breeder.
       
       Samir
       #Post#: 8709--------------------------------------------------
       Re: true breeders
   DIR By: Paul Conway
       Date: August 23, 2011, 5:09 pm
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       Knowing something about Genetics is certainly a tool in your
       breeding tool box.  The more you know the better you can use
       that tool.  I would think knowing the basics of line breeding,
       in breeding, some simple recessive and dominant traits, etc is a
       very good start that will take you a long way without getting
       too involved in the advanced stuff.    Paul Conway.
       #Post#: 8710--------------------------------------------------
       Re: true breeders
   DIR By: MOTHERLODELOFTS
       Date: August 24, 2011, 12:30 am
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       What did the oldtimers know about genetics ?  I'll put my money
       on those with a little stock sence over a genetics guru anyday.
       #Post#: 8712--------------------------------------------------
       Re: true breeders
   DIR By: Cliff Ball
       Date: August 24, 2011, 9:39 am
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       I agree. The study of Genetics is just a tool. And as a tool,
       experience is valuable in learning how to use the tool.  Take
       "SEX-LINKED" pairings, sure an astute breeder will learn it over
       time, but that same info can be learned quicker by reading the
       books. Which ever way you learn this stuff, is fine. Experience
       is a fine teacher and, if coupled with book knowledge, even
       better and quicker.  Both are good and both work.
       Cliff
       
       --- Quote from: Paul Conway link ---
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       > Knowing something about Genetics is certainly a tool in your
       breeding tool box.  The more you know the better you can use
       that tool.  I would think knowing the basics of line breeding,
       in breeding, some simple recessive and dominant traits, etc is a
       very good start that will take you a long way without getting
       too involved in the advanced stuff.    Paul Conway.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       #Post#: 8714--------------------------------------------------
       Re: true breeders
   DIR By: donnie james
       Date: August 24, 2011, 10:55 am
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       hay guys,
       james turner and tony roberts 2 videos is a big help they
       covered the basics ...................donnie james
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       Re: true breeders
   DIR By: raul carreiro
       Date: August 24, 2011, 5:46 pm
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       @ 1time1fly, genetics can only give a breeder of anything the
       potenial of breeding as good or better birds!  what gene is
       responsible for the roll? If you or anyone else here knew,
       everyone here would have a kit full of champions! Why can non
       rollers produce off spring that do roll??
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