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       #Post#: 8360--------------------------------------------------
       when can i try flying brand new birds?
   DIR By: tjrepoman
       Date: July 31, 2011, 1:10 am
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       when can i fly them i know they have to get use to the area but
       are we looking at 3 weeks, 3 months, a year?? they are adults,
       but new to this area ( i just bought them ) also what is the
       best way to get them comfortable in there pin? what and how much
       food should i feed them?
       My 4 year old and i are really amped about this new hobby and
       ready to buy more birds but we wont to do it right
       thanks for your time
       T.J.
       #Post#: 8362--------------------------------------------------
       Re: when can i try flying brand new birds?
   DIR By: oldfart
       Date: July 31, 2011, 5:59 am
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       Hey T.J., Welcome to the site. Homing adult birds can be a bit
       tough with the possibility of loss. I would recomend not flying
       but breeding them in the spring and flying their young. I know
       that is a long time and you want to see them in the air! So... I
       assume your flight box has traps installed. Start by placing
       them through the traps, over and over, until they will run
       through when placed in front of the trap. Then ( or now, for
       safety ) tape the first five flight feathers near the wing root
       with blue painters tape. Use the 3/4" and then tape over that
       with another layer of medical tape. The blue tape will not cause
       as much feather damage and the medical tape locks the whole
       together. Place the birds on top of the kit box when they are
       hungry and then feed them and let them trap on their own if they
       will. Leave them out for a set amount of time when you would fly
       them in the future. Then feed and let trap. Follow this routine
       for at least two weeks, remove the tape on one bird and place
       all of them on the box. DO NOT MAKE THEM FLY! Feed and trap.
       Repeat this with the remaining birds until all are settled. They
       will start taking short hops around the yard and father out to
       learn where home is. When they start flying on their own and
       trapping when fed. you can flag them off of the box as a kit if
       they are not flying as one on their own. Caution, when they are
       on the box with their wings taped they are easy prey for cats,
       hawks,..... do not leave them out alone.
       Good luck
       Thom
       
       #Post#: 8365--------------------------------------------------
       Re: when can i try flying brand new birds?
   DIR By: donnie james
       Date: July 31, 2011, 3:59 pm
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       hat tj,
       i agree with thom and i want to add raise a kit of young birds
       and raise 25-30 birds and fly them out and keep the best and fly
       them.....................donnie james
       #Post#: 8373--------------------------------------------------
       Re: when can i try flying brand new birds?
   DIR By: Johnnie Williams
       Date: August 1, 2011, 11:45 am
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       Hi TJ adult birds take longer to Home in more likely to lose--
       don't t take chance on losing them just raise some from them
       first-- fly them or find someone that has young squeaker Kit for
       sale will take about 1 month to home them in-- take time don't
       get in BIG HURRY you will lose lots of them if you HURRY.  Where
       do you live I'm in Amarillo TX if close may be able to help--
       email is mailto:johnniejanet@gmail.com.    GOD Bless!!!
       #Post#: 8375--------------------------------------------------
       Re: when can i try flying brand new birds?
   DIR By: Jay_Mua_Lee
       Date: August 1, 2011, 1:10 pm
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       Tj,
       If you try to join a club you can't....I say that cause they
       don't accept new member....and there's a story for that....
       Jay.......
       #Post#: 8399--------------------------------------------------
       Re: when can i try flying brand new birds?
   DIR By: vwsrph
       Date: August 2, 2011, 6:17 pm
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       --- Quote from: oldfart link ---
       >
       > tape the first five flight feathers near the wing root with
       blue painters tape. Use the 3/4" and then tape over that with
       another layer of medical tape. The blue tape will not cause as
       much feather damage and the medical tape locks the whole
       together.
       --- End Quote ---
       Do you tape both wings or just one?  This is my first year
       raising pigeons and every time I try to train a couple more
       youngsters they spend the first night outside.  I starve them
       for a day but they still wont come in the first day.  After that
       they seem fine(they come straight in after flying).  I worry
       cause they are vulnerable to predators all night.  Thank you for
       this site I have learned a ton, although this is my first post.
       #Post#: 8400--------------------------------------------------
       Re: when can i try flying brand new birds?
   DIR By: oldfart
       Date: August 2, 2011, 6:59 pm
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       vwsrph, if you tape both wings they are balanced and can still
       fly, not very well but enough to get into trouble. Only tape one
       wing and they will not be able to go very far. That way you can
       catch them and place them back in the kit box over night. BUT,
       watch them very close as they are helpless.
       WELCOME!!
       Thom
       #Post#: 8401--------------------------------------------------
       Re: when can i try flying brand new birds?
   DIR By: Johnnie Williams
       Date: August 2, 2011, 7:02 pm
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       YES I tape last 3 flight feathers on both wings others just do 1
       wing--are you setting young birds on trap board in a cage for at
       least 1 week before you turn them lose to trap on ther own--
       when feeding time push in trap a few times before feeding then
       with wings taped set on landing board or on top of kit box--
       don't scare up just let them learn will take a few days to week
       then remove tape and they will start to fly around.  --- GOD
       BLESS!!!
       #Post#: 8402--------------------------------------------------
       Re: when can i try flying brand new birds?
   DIR By: vwsrph
       Date: August 2, 2011, 7:20 pm
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       Thanks to both of you. I think I need to be more patient.  If
       they go in once I figure they have it.  I'll let them go in for
       a week or so next time. Thanks again.
       #Post#: 8410--------------------------------------------------
       Re: when can i try flying brand new birds?
   DIR By: marvin
       Date: August 3, 2011, 3:21 pm
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       im new to this site too but i have flown birds of my own and
       they trap in consistently very fast. all i did was left my trap
       door to the coop open with a cage on it for a week when i seen
       them using the trap by themselves i knew they were getting used
       to the coop. then i taped there wing ( 5 flights one one wing).
       them i didn't feed them for about 36 hours before letting them
       out. and i let them out through the trap. lock them on the trap
       with the cage on after about 10 min take the cage off slowly and
       just let them do whatever they want for 30 min then call them
       in. with there wing taped they know not to go very far just
       don't scare them away. and make sure you let them out an hour
       before dark this helps keep them around. pigeons don't like the
       dark. BRO I PROMISE THIS WORKS after doing the tape for two
       weeks just to be safe. take it off and let them out the same way
       for two more weeks. then you can start to scare them up iuf you
       want. one month and they will be in the air
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