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#Post#: 435--------------------------------------------------
whos birds?
By: spadewings Date: September 21, 2010, 8:58 pm
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Ok Guys,
whos birds is it when you cross so many birds into the lines.
i started with plona based birds from Marcus Freeman, crossed
them will the Flashover strain from Paul Fullerton for the body
color, then a few genarations from the kids i crossed them with
joe embertons line of birds to add frequency and shorter time to
come in, then now i added some tim decker birds to them,, and
thats what i have now..
what do i call them?
can i call them my birds?
or are they tim decker because his birds were the last to blend
in?
#Post#: 438--------------------------------------------------
Re: whos birds?
By: Ty Coleman Date: September 21, 2010, 9:10 pm
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My birds came from Cliff Ball, Jay Yandle , Jay Knepp, Don
Greene , and James Turner. All of there birds go back to one
another and past that to Bill Pensom and Lyod Thompson. I might
breed a bird from James to another bird from James but when I
place the band on the offspring it is a Vaportrail Roller bred
by Ty Coleman. I give all the guy's ahead of me the credit they
are due but on fly day win loose or draw it is my name on the
score sheet.
#Post#: 441--------------------------------------------------
Re: whos birds?
By: SpinDoctor Date: September 21, 2010, 9:17 pm
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Once any birds leaves the original breeders lofts, they are no
longer ( His ) birds. William Pensom's name is still being
attatched to various Rollers in this country. With all the junk
Rollers we have around today, how fair is it to call them Pensom
Rollers, when He had no control over how they were bred? In the
same way, the person you got your birds from has no control over
how you breed them. For good or bad, they are your birds. Put
your name on them, and breed them to the best of your ability,
for the AIREAL qualities this breed was developed for.
#Post#: 489--------------------------------------------------
Re: whos birds?
By: spadewings Date: September 22, 2010, 7:57 pm
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oh man,
it is official that my birds now are my birds. lol.
that is pretty cool.
hope the other guys dont get mad at me picking up where they
spent a lifetime doing.
#Post#: 505--------------------------------------------------
Re: whos birds?
By: Tony Chavarria Date: September 23, 2010, 12:13 am
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[quote author=spadewings link=topic=66.msg489#msg489
date=1285203463]
oh man,
it is official that my birds now are my birds. lol.
that is pretty cool.
hope the other guys dont get mad at me picking up where they
spent a lifetime doing.
[/quote]
We all stand on the shoulders of those who preceded us. Thanks
goodness for their efforts! ;D
#Post#: 549--------------------------------------------------
Re: whos birds?
By: rtwilliams Date: September 23, 2010, 10:58 pm
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If you bred the bred, fed, and flew the bird it is yours.
However give credit where it is due. I have Billings and Starley
family of birds. I have not done anything good with them yet so
they are mine. LOL
However if I am ever a master flier and everyone wants a few
from me, they will still be mine, but I will say they came from
the work of other Master flier, including Jay Starley and Ken
Billings.
#Post#: 1429--------------------------------------------------
Re: whos birds?
By: 3757 Date: October 16, 2010, 9:00 pm
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What do you call the fireball strain? Are they Fireballs or not?
#Post#: 1630--------------------------------------------------
Re: whos birds?
By: donnie james Date: October 22, 2010, 8:37 pm
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hay spadewings,
people tell me that if you brought birds from some one their
your birds and if you mate different families their your
family...........donny james
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Re: whos birds?
By: Sound Rollers Date: December 6, 2010, 3:35 am
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Well, does anyone have an answer? [quote author=3757
link=topic=66.msg1429#msg1429 date=1287280831]
What do you call the fireball strain? Are they Fireballs or not?
[/quote]
#Post#: 2928--------------------------------------------------
Re: whos birds?
By: Joe Asaro Date: December 6, 2010, 9:44 am
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Ron.... I would call them James E. Graham,s strain, After all
that is a fire ball is it not? ??? ;D Joe
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