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#Post#: 8315--------------------------------------------------
Adding a bird to a kit?
DIR By: rolldown
Date: July 26, 2011, 2:51 pm
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Hello,
I have been flying a kit of 6 birds for about 1 month now. They
are flying very high and are rolling good. I have a mature hen
that I would like to add to the kit. I got her without seeing
her fly first and even though she is out of good stock, I want
to see how good she is before I consider breeding her. Would I
be able to add her to the kit right now? She hasn't been flown
before but she is homed to my place. Any advice would be great.
Thanks, Joe
#Post#: 8319--------------------------------------------------
Re: Adding a bird to a kit?
DIR By: donnie james
Date: July 26, 2011, 3:36 pm
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hay joe,
i would to see how she does but its going to take a while before
she start kitting but she will in time and let me know how she
does ................donnie james
#Post#: 8321--------------------------------------------------
Re: Adding a bird to a kit?
DIR By: Tony Chavarria
Date: July 26, 2011, 4:48 pm
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--- Quote from: rolldown link ---
>
> Hello,
> I have been flying a kit of 6 birds for about 1 month now.
They are flying very high and are rolling good. I have a mature
hen that I would like to add to the kit. I got her without
seeing her fly first and even though she is out of good stock, I
want to see how good she is before I consider breeding her.
Would I be able to add her to the kit right now? She hasn't been
flown before but she is homed to my place. Any advice would be
great. Thanks, Joe
>
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A bird has to be flown from the time it is a youngster to full
performance maturity which will take about two years of air
time. A bird that has missed out on flying in a properly managed
kit for no less than its first two years will likely never be
the bird it could have been in the air, if it is only now that
you are flying it for the first time in its life.
Forget about flying that hen. Breed from it and and fly out its
youngsters, if they perform as needed then at least you have a
"proven" breeder on your loft. A proven breeder is a valuable
possession. :D
#Post#: 8323--------------------------------------------------
Re: Adding a bird to a kit?
DIR By: wishiwon2
Date: July 26, 2011, 5:49 pm
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The short answer to your question, is yes, you can add to her to
your young kit.
There is a bit more to it, however. As Tony suggested, if a bird
wasnt flown when young, you will have a very difficult time
getting it to fly properly and likely will not see its
performing potential. IF it was flown as a young bird, it should
get back into form in 2-4 weeks worth of fly time. You will need
to manage it individually if housed and flown with youngsters. A
mature bird will require far less feed than babies, about 2/3
the amt. If this hen is overfed, she will be fly with poor
habits such as landing early and/or flying high and long. As
soon as she flys the time and kits, I would move her into a
mature kit if possible.
I am generally an advocate of flying birds before breeding from
them. However, if you got this bird as a breeder, then I suggest
you evaluate it based on its ability to produce vs its
performance abilities. IF it came to you as 'a kitbird' of no
special ability, then go ahead and fly it out.
Not sure what you mean by 'mature'. To me and it sounds like
others, the connotation is 4yrs plus. 'Mature' might also mean,
reproductively mature. 4 + yrs old can still fly and perform in
a kit, just refer to the above. mature in the sense its not a
squeaker, but less than 18 mo is no big deal, so long as it was
flown as a squeaker. Most kits are made of various aged birds.
The critical period is between trap training and '2 months in
the air', these ages have widely different needs nutritionally
and socially, they dont mix well in the kitbox when some are
cowering and squeaking and others are dominating to claim a
perch/feed/social status
#Post#: 8334--------------------------------------------------
Re: Adding a bird to a kit?
DIR By: rolldown
Date: July 27, 2011, 10:34 am
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Ok, thanks for your advice. I actually don't know for sure if it
is a hen or not. It looks and acts like a hen but it has paired
up with a hen and they are setting on one egg, which I candled
yesterday and it looks fertile. ??? If it does hatch, I'll just
fly it instead of the hen/cock. Thanks
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