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       #Post#: 8293--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Should The NBRC Change The Birmingham Roller Standard?
       By: donnie james Date: July 25, 2011, 7:41 pm
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       thanks sound for your input myself i like the old rules that 1
       bird can be score but i can live with the new rule
       ...........................donnie james
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       Re: Should The NBRC Change The Birmingham Roller Standard?
       By: Sal Ortiz Date: July 25, 2011, 9:11 pm
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       Joe, I sold all my kits and loft, split my breeders into two
       remaining kit boxes. I guess you can say I had a moving sale.
       BUT still haven't moved. Lol. Hope to sell this place soon so I
       can be back flying kits soon, I really miss flying some kits.
       There is nothing better than a hot cup of coffee in the morning
       watching a young kit develop and let all the dreams flow in on
       what that team might do for your next BIG fly! Lol...
       #Post#: 8298--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Should The NBRC Change The Birmingham Roller Standard?
       By: joeb Date: July 25, 2011, 9:16 pm
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       I certainly hope everything works out for you!! I am moving to
       Texas so am down to my best breeders and 1 kit of flyers.
       Joe
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       Re: Should The NBRC Change The Birmingham Roller Standard?
       By: Sal Ortiz Date: July 25, 2011, 9:38 pm
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       Joe, thanks man! And sounds good, what area in Texas will you be
       in? Hope you get a free fly zone!
       #Post#: 8304--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Should The NBRC Change The Birmingham Roller Standard?
       By: joeb Date: July 26, 2011, 7:36 am
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       Sal, I will be in Abilene, about 3 hrs west of Dallas-Ft Worth.
       Our house is about 50% complete, hopefully be done by
       mid-October
       Joe B
       #Post#: 8305--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Should The NBRC Change The Birmingham Roller Standard?
       By: windjammer loft Date: July 26, 2011, 7:56 am
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       I have to agree with Cliff's first comment.   "Today's modern
       Roller competitions need to define a "RANGE" of scoreable
       Rollers, from the minimally acceptable performance to the
       absolute ultimate performance. One should not change the meaning
       of the other but work in harmony to enhance understanding of
       both.    Giving a judge a clear precise understanding of what he
       should base his judgements on."
       Not use the judges "personel" standard.....
       #Post#: 8318--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Should The NBRC Change The Birmingham Roller Standard?
       By: donnie james Date: July 26, 2011, 3:33 pm
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       i don't what the rules says but i feel that if they change the
       rule(s) that everyone wouldn't agree with them so i think they
       should leave it along ..................donny james
       #Post#: 8322--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Should The NBRC Change The Birmingham Roller Standard?
       By: az-je Date: July 26, 2011, 5:39 pm
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       Didn't we all have this same or similar conversation when the
       Judge from South Africa expected nothing but perfection with
       every roller in the kit to be on the same exact wing beat?
       Maybe leave the "rules" the same and change the judging to
       panel/committee style with an "average" score of however many
       are judging.  Can't go too wrong or get too far off with that
       method.
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