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       #Post#: 8120--------------------------------------------------
       i need advice on breeding
   DIR By: marvin
       Date: July 15, 2011, 1:54 pm
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       Ive had three pair of birds in my breeding coop for about a
       month. one pair has just hatched there eggs. one pair has laid
       one egg but it broke that was about three weeks ago, none sense.
       the other pair has never laid an egg yet they both are adults
       and definable a pair, they hang out together all the time, the
       cock always protects her and he will fight any bird that comes
       close to her. my mating coop is 5 feet tall 5 feet wide and 4
       feet deep. and im thinking about adding a pair to the coop in a
       week or two. good idea or not?
       #Post#: 8121--------------------------------------------------
       Re: i need advice on breeding
   DIR By: touxiong
       Date: July 15, 2011, 2:07 pm
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       you should mine coop is the same size and i have like 7 pair in
       thier tey are all producing well.
       #Post#: 8122--------------------------------------------------
       Re: i need advice on breeding
   DIR By: marvin
       Date: July 15, 2011, 2:42 pm
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       what should i be observing rite now? will adding a pair to the
       coop disrupt anything. and how long will it take for the other
       pairs to lay eggs are there any signs that eggs are on there
       way.
       #Post#: 8123--------------------------------------------------
       Re: i need advice on breeding
   DIR By: touxiong
       Date: July 15, 2011, 2:46 pm
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       yes the hen will go and sit on the nest more often
       #Post#: 8127--------------------------------------------------
       Re: i need advice on breeding
   DIR By: marvin
       Date: July 15, 2011, 2:58 pm
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       ok so i guess all i do now is wait for them to do there thing.
       should i build them nests.
       #Post#: 8132--------------------------------------------------
       Re: i need advice on breeding
   DIR By: touxiong
       Date: July 15, 2011, 6:47 pm
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       if you want i just throw hay or sticks inside for my birds to
       make heir own
       #Post#: 8174--------------------------------------------------
       Re: i need advice on breeding
   DIR By: Fhtfire
       Date: July 18, 2011, 7:18 pm
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       --- Quote from: touxiong link ---
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       > if you want i just throw hay or sticks inside for my birds to
       make heir own
       >
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       Don't use Hay...Hay holds moisture, promotes mold and bugs love
       it.  You can use Tobacco stems (pigeon supply store) or use the
       long pine needles. Tobacco stems and pine needles repel moisture
       and bugs don't like them...the pigeons do.
       rock and ROLL
       Paul
       #Post#: 8177--------------------------------------------------
       Re: i need advice on breeding
   DIR By: lew3015
       Date: July 18, 2011, 10:32 pm
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       I  use hay for nests with no problems what so ever, I have tried
       differant materials and hay works the best for me.  The birds
       like the grass hay more than a hard stem type, if you think
       about it, most wild birds use grass or hay all the time. One
       thing you should not use is the black colored nest pads, there
       has been many reports of chicks dieing just after hatching. No
       proof that the pads cause them to die, just a lot of
       speculation.
       #Post#: 8178--------------------------------------------------
       Re: i need advice on breeding
   DIR By: wishiwon2
       Date: July 18, 2011, 11:26 pm
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       I agree with Paul, pine needles or tobacco stems are better than
       hay or straw. Hay and straw are hollow and with hold moisture
       which facilitates microbial growth. I have also used kitty
       litter in nest bowls, but I didnt like it.
       
       Sand in the bottom of the bowl, with needles for nest material
       in my opinion is the healthiest and best.
       #Post#: 8179--------------------------------------------------
       Re: i need advice on breeding
   DIR By: Fhtfire
       Date: July 19, 2011, 1:23 am
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       --- Quote from: lew3015 link ---
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       > I  use hay for nests with no problems what so ever, I have
       tried differant materials and hay works the best for me.  The
       birds like the grass hay more than a hard stem type, if you
       think about it, most wild birds use grass or hay all the time.
       One thing you should not use is the black colored nest pads,
       there has been many reports of chicks dieing just after
       hatching. No proof that the pads cause them to die, just a lot
       of speculation.
       >
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       Hey Lew...you are right most wild birds use grass and hay..but
       then you have to ask yourself...what is the mortality rate of
       wild birds compared to domesticated birds.....there is a reason
       that lots of wild baby birds die in the nest....parasites, mold
       and moisture is a big one....
       The long Pine needles are not very hard....I just bend them into
       a bowl shape....My pigeons go Ape Sh*%t over the pine
       needles....they fight over them...steal them from each
       other....Mine did not like Tobacco stems for some reason.
       rock and ROLL
       Paul
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