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#Post#: 7965--------------------------------------------------
Smaller kits less attraction
DIR By: Kevin Thao
Date: July 5, 2011, 3:48 pm
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I was flying a kit of 8-9 and someone down the block was flying
a kit of 15-20,while I was flying my kit I was watching his kit
too.Suddenly his birds all dived down and every where like
waterfalls and fireworks,At first i thought it was a hawk,but a
second later I see a peregrine falcon or a prairie falcon fly
back up and diving again and again.then after 8-9 dives it quit
and flew away.This is my first time seeing a falcon instead of a
hawk. :o
It seems like smaller kits have less impacts on them except in
hawk season,but i may be wrong though ???
#Post#: 7967--------------------------------------------------
Re: Smaller kits less attraction
DIR By: Jay_Mua_Lee
Date: July 5, 2011, 7:55 pm
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Kevin,
FALCON WING ARE NORMALLY SHARP AT THE TIP AND FALCON BODY SIZE
ARE NORMALLY ABOUT THE SAME SIZE AS A ROLLER. THE DIFFERENT IS
FALCON DOES NOT FLAP ITS WING AS FREQUENT AN A ROLLER DOES.
REDTAIL NORMALLY GO AFTER SQUIRREL MORE THEN ROLLER. AND REDTAIL
BODY SIZE ARE A LOT MORE ROUND AND TWICE BIGGER. FALCON MAINLY
STAY ABOUT 200 + FT FROM THE GROUND. FALCON NORMALLY JUST COME
FLY BY THEY DON'T STAY. A KOOPER IS THE SIZE BETWEEN REDTAIL AND
FALCON. ONE OF THE WEIRD THING ABOUT KOOPER IS IT'LL LAND ON
ANYTHING, TREE, FENCE, BUILDING, TELEPHONE POLE, WIRE ETC. ONCE
A KOOPER FIND A PLACE WHERE THERE IS FOOD IT STAY THERE FOR A
PERIOD OF TIME SUCH AS YOUR BACKYARD. THE PREDITOR THAT I AM
MOST FEAR IS THE FALCON?
JAY......
#Post#: 7975--------------------------------------------------
Re: Smaller kits less attraction
DIR By: MOTHERLODELOFTS
Date: July 6, 2011, 12:55 am
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More so some just become a food trough .. the less birds I breed
and fly the less problems I have , once they find you and figure
you out it is like the a monkey hitting the red button for food.
--- Quote from: Kevin Thao link ---
>
> I was flying a kit of 8-9 and someone down the block was
flying a kit of 15-20,while I was flying my kit I was watching
his kit too.Suddenly his birds all dived down and every where
like waterfalls and fireworks,At first i thought it was a
hawk,but a second later I see a peregrine falcon or a prairie
falcon fly back up and diving again and again.then after 8-9
dives it quit and flew away.This is my first time seeing a
falcon instead of a hawk. :o
>
>
> It seems like smaller kits have less impacts on them except in
hawk season,but i may be wrong though ???
>
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#Post#: 7985--------------------------------------------------
Re: Smaller kits less attraction
DIR By: Tony Chavarria
Date: July 6, 2011, 1:12 pm
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--- Quote from: MOTHERLODELOFTS link ---
>
> ...once they find you and figure you out it is like the a
monkey hitting the red button for food.
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;D
+++
I always recommend that guys cover all or at least most of the
wire on their lofts so as to minimize their presence to the
birds of prey. No point in advertising a soup kitchen offering
grain fed bird flesh to a hungry coopers hawk if you can avoid
it.
#Post#: 7996--------------------------------------------------
Re: Smaller kits less attraction
DIR By: n00bR0113rs
Date: July 7, 2011, 12:23 pm
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--- Quote from: Kevin Thao link ---
>
> I was flying a kit of 8-9 and someone down the block was
flying a kit of 15-20,while I was flying my kit I was watching
his kit too.Suddenly his birds all dived down and every where
like waterfalls and fireworks,At first i thought it was a
hawk,but a second later I see a peregrine falcon or a prairie
falcon fly back up and diving again and again.then after 8-9
dives it quit and flew away.This is my first time seeing a
falcon instead of a hawk. :o
>
>
> It seems like smaller kits have less impacts on them except in
hawk season,but i may be wrong though ???
>
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Maybe the falcon thinks that with a bigger kit of birds, its
chances are more than likely to be better at getting lunch,
Instead of going for a smaller kit of 5 or 10.
#Post#: 8003--------------------------------------------------
Re: Smaller kits less attraction
DIR By: lew3015
Date: July 7, 2011, 6:17 pm
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There has been a lot of thought put into this and I can say
first hand that kit size makes no difference, I have had coopers
come in when I flew 20 birds and also when I flew 5 birds, I
once had a cooper take a single bird just after I tossed it up,
I had not flown a bird for a week prior.
If the hawks are hungry they will come no matter how many are
flying.
#Post#: 8029--------------------------------------------------
Re: Smaller kits less attraction
DIR By: SpinCity USA
Date: July 8, 2011, 11:36 pm
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The size of the kit does not matter, what attracts the bird of
prey is the abnormal activity of the roller pigeon. I live in
the country and there are many flocks of birds from wild pigeons
eating the neighbors grain after harvest (200+ birds) to
startlings and whatever. I dont see them hunting these birds. I
also dont see them getting after my babies. As a preditor their
job is to take out the sick , weak and lame. Roller pigeons fits
it job discription. Have you ever noticed the bops always take
the good ones and in the end whats left is the survivors? Thats
because they act like a normal bird.
#Post#: 8086--------------------------------------------------
Re: Smaller kits less attraction
DIR By: Kevin Thao
Date: July 13, 2011, 12:47 pm
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--- Quote from: SpinCity USA link ---
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> The size of the kit does not matter, what attracts the bird of
prey is the abnormal activity of the roller pigeon. I live in
the country and there are many flocks of birds from wild pigeons
eating the neighbors grain after harvest (200+ birds) to
startlings and whatever. I dont see them hunting these birds. I
also dont see them getting after my babies. As a preditor their
job is to take out the sick , weak and lame. Roller pigeons fits
it job discription. Have you ever noticed the bops always take
the good ones and in the end whats left is the survivors? Thats
because they act like a normal bird.
>
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Yes,as keeping my rollers I found that out too,the ones that
roll the best seems to be the weakest or sickest,so B.O.P.s
always target my best birds
#Post#: 8096--------------------------------------------------
Re: Smaller kits less attraction
DIR By: charles_b
Date: July 14, 2011, 1:47 am
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I think that the BOP sees the one that is the more frequent
roller as weak because a roll is not part of a normal flying
pattern. The more it rolls the more attention it attracts.
#Post#: 8098--------------------------------------------------
Re: Smaller kits less attraction
DIR By: joeb
Date: July 14, 2011, 7:08 am
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I think you guys are inviting trouble by discussing this topic
on an open forum. Never know which PETA fanatic is watching. Be
careful.
Keep em spinning
Joe B :D
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