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       #Post#: 7925--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Horner Birds-Not Flying
   DIR By: raul carreiro
       Date: July 2, 2011, 9:49 am
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       --- Quote from: Jay Mua Lee link ---
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       > Quailtail,
       >
       > No one will understand what you talking about because they
       have not try different family line. I mention this topic before
       the same way you going through.......I left the Horner
       (Jaconnette) a long time ago.
       >
       > A hint for you to figure if the bird is strong or week is to
       PICK UP THE BIRD TO YOUR WAISTE AND JUST DROP THE BIRD OFF FROM
       YOUR HAND.....IF THE BIRD FLAP IT WING BUT LAND ON THE GROUND
       ITS A SIGN THATS A WEAK BIRD AND IF THE BIRD FLY RIGHT BACK UP
       AND LAND ON SOMETHING THAT IS HEIGHT THEN ITS A STRONG
       BIRD.......
       >
       > When a bird does this to me I normally take it about a block
       down from my backyard and toss the bird up in the air......
       >
       > Jay.......
       >
       > [quote author=Quailtail link=topic=616.msg7911#msg7911
       date=1309573386]
       > The only thing they have is what I feed my homers. It has
       wheat, corn, soy beans and milo.  I have no idea what the
       protien is.
       >
       > I got the birds about 3 weeks ago and one died.  6 of them
       took off never to return the first time I let them out.  Started
       feeding them a wheat/milo 50/50 mix.  Was told to go to straight
       wheat as that was the only grain Mr. Horner fed.
       >
       > Most of them will trap back pretty good but have a few
       straglers that sit on the loft or on telephone wires.  They are
       all in by dark.
       >
       > I was told you have to have them hungry before they would fly.
       If they are supposed to get at least 2 cups, I sure have not
       been feeding enough.  I have also been told if you over feed
       they fly too long or sky out.
       >
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       [/quote]
       Jay, where do you come up with this BS???
       #Post#: 7937--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Horner Birds-Not Flying
   DIR By: Quailtail
       Date: July 2, 2011, 8:53 pm
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       The homer mix I am feeding is 16%.  Birds are flying better
       today than in the past.  Still not trapping as quickly as they
       should. How do you handle the stragglers that hang out on the
       roof of the loft?
       #Post#: 7939--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Horner Birds-Not Flying
   DIR By: Cliff Ball
       Date: July 3, 2011, 7:31 am
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       Feed them a little less. They'll trap if they are hungry!f
       Cliff
       #Post#: 7941--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Horner Birds-Not Flying
   DIR By: charles_b
       Date: July 3, 2011, 9:47 am
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       --- Quote from: Cliff Ball link ---
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       >
       > Quailtail,
       > Could be the heat, too,  if it's hot where you are. First off
       , as been pointed out, the starting point for feeding young
       birds, is ONE CUP PER 10 BIRDS .
       > Secondly, I see lots of guys TRAIN their birds to fly around,
       and eat their full ration, immediately after landing.  In my
       opinion, that is a mistake. The birds get the idea, that a few
       laps around the yard and lets go eat. I train the kits to trap
       with 1/2 Table spoon of millet, then wait 10-20 minutes.... THEN
       feed their normal ration. Let them catch their breath and cool
       down for 10-20 minutes BEFORE feeding.
       > It may be worth a try. I have never seen anyone have trouble
       getting the Horners to fly. It's probably just a temporary
       problem.
       > Cliff
       >
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       Have to agree with Cliff on this. Snack first and balanced meal
       later. Quite often you see birds eat after a fly and minutes
       later they regurgitate the food. It is good to let them relax
       and then feed
       #Post#: 7946--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Horner Birds-Not Flying
   DIR By: Johnnie Williams
       Date: July 3, 2011, 12:06 pm
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       try what cilff told me feed them up then start hauling down the
       road a few blocks and force them to fly keep increase distance
       until they fly 20 min took mine up to 3/4 of a mile it work for
       me mine would fly 3min land not any more they fly 30 min to
       hour.  GOD Bless!!!!
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