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       #Post#: 7473--------------------------------------------------
       Went To My First Competition Fly
   DIR By: 2y4life
       Date: May 30, 2011, 9:22 am
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       Well, I went to my first comp fly and it was the World Cup
       Regional qualifier. I drove three hours to get to the
       Minneapolis, MN and from there, I carpooled with the Minnesota
       guys to go and see all the great flyers in MN. It was well worth
       the time as I'll break down what I heard, saw, and learned.
       The MN guys were really kind to me and allowed me to ask as many
       questions, smart and stupid, as I wanted and they tried their
       best to answer them all. Everyone gave me advice as well as
       telling me what I could and should look for.
       One of the words of advice given to me was to ride with the
       judge if possible and I took that to heart and rode with the
       judge for a total of 4 hours road time. In that four hours, I
       was able to pick his brain for hours and hours as well as just
       talk about life in general. It was also a very unique experience
       as he was very close to my age, as he was actually a bit
       younger.
       I saw some great kitting, some really good individual deep
       rollers consistently rolling at 40', and I was able to see a kit
       that I eventually would like to achieve and that is a nice tight
       kit that is hot and rolling consistently. It was my pleasure to
       be able to tag along. Thanks to any of the MN guys who happen to
       read this post, it was worth my while and well worth spending my
       Memorial Day Weekend coming to MN.
       To all the new guys like myself, you can all learn so much from
       reading books, articles, and taking advice from guys online BUT
       nothing beats going out and seeing an actual competition fly and
       understanding how a judge scores and how that may change from
       judge to judge. This is my advice to new guys coming from a new
       guy. If you are serious about raising quality rollers...
       - Follow your local roller guys to the competition flys (Or,
       like me, due to lack of flyers in my state, I drove 3 hours to
       my neighboring state...and then drove up and down Minnesota)
       - Pick the competitors brains
       - If they ask you to take a look at their setup and birds, GO DO
       IT.
       - Listen, take it all in, and ask questions.
       - My last words of advice...nothing beats going out there and
       actually watching the birds fly and just talking with the guys.
       It was a Memorial Day Weekend well spent.
       #Post#: 7481--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Went To My First Competition Fly
   DIR By: MOTHERLODELOFTS
       Date: May 30, 2011, 10:16 am
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       Who was the judge Tou ?  Who's team was it that you liked ?
       #Post#: 7496--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Went To My First Competition Fly
   DIR By: 2y4life
       Date: May 30, 2011, 6:25 pm
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       --- Quote from: Joe Asaro link ---
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       > 2y4...Hope they will be coming to your house to watch your
       birds soon. Congrats to you. :)  Joe
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       --- End Quote ---
       I hope so but as I've mentioned before, I cannot have pigeons
       where I am currently living but am working on a way to do so and
       I am getting close :)
       --- Quote from: MOTHERLODELOFTS link ---
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       > Who was the judge Tou ?  Who's team was it that you liked ?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The Judge was a young guy by the name of Calder Parrot. His dad
       was Terry Parrot (Correct me if I'm wrong someone).
       I hate to make judgments on everyone's birds based off of a
       single fly where a few guys had bad flys BUT based on Sunday's
       flies, Wayne Feder's A kit was off the charts. Came out hot,
       flying low about 40-75 feetish (for the first 3-4 mins) and
       rolled like crazy. They eventually got up to about 100 feet for
       about 8-10 mins and finally got up to about 150-200 feet. They,
       to me,  worked very hard as a team and put on a quite a show and
       that set the standard for the rest of the day.
       All the other guys had great birds too but Sunday was Wayne's
       day. He has some awesome, awesome birds. I will say this, I
       thought John Elton's birds kitted really well but he had the
       deepest birds I saw...some rolling at consistently at 50' or
       more. But for some reason, they were off and rolled more
       individually and wasn't very frequent. But John's birds were
       ALWAYS flying back to the kit after breaking and that was very,
       very impressive to me. A bird never left the kit and were always
       in the process of getting back to the kit.
       Minnesota has great pigeons but even better pigeon men.
       #Post#: 7500--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Went To My First Competition Fly
   DIR By: MOTHERLODELOFTS
       Date: May 30, 2011, 9:33 pm
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       I think Wayne is going to be a force Tou .. I was there a few
       years ago. I met Calder and his father 10 years ago or so,
       Calder was pretty youn at that time. They were a good father son
       team.
       #Post#: 7535--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Went To My First Competition Fly
   DIR By: Cliff Ball
       Date: June 2, 2011, 11:20 am
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       You hit the nail on the head, Tou. There is only so much one can
       learn by reading about rollers on the internet or in books.
       Going on the competition flies puts a sense of reality into the
       process that cannot be matched in any other way. To me,
       participation at this level tells me how serious a guy is about
       rollers. Calder is a great young rollerman. I met him and his
       late father at the Denver NBRC Convention about 5 years ago. I
       remember how committed Calder was, to his rollers, and I was so
       amazed because of his young age, at the time. From the photos it
       looks like he has grown up a lot since then! At the convention
       banquet, I won a large framed poster of weather patterns and
       cloud formations in a convention raffle. It was too large to get
       on the plane home so I gave it to Calder. I wonder if he still
       has it? I bet he does!
       Cliff
       #Post#: 7536--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Went To My First Competition Fly
   DIR By: 2y4life
       Date: June 2, 2011, 11:52 am
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       Yes Cliff, you are right. Alot of the assumptions I had were
       thrown out the window once I actually saw some of the quality
       competition kits. And as all of you guys who compete know, it
       takes some level of dedication and seriousness to drive all
       around the state to watch birds fly. My wife thought I was a bit
       nuts to drive from Wisconsin to Minnesota (3 hours) only to
       drive another 2 1/2 hours from the Minneapolis area to get to
       Wayne's place but she understands. I've continually gotten more
       and more serious about keeping rollers...don't know if that is a
       good thing or bad thing lol but I've got an understanding wife
       :). Anyhow, regardless, I know in my heart that I am doing this
       because I genuinely enjoy and love it. The day I don't enjoy it
       anymore, I'm out.
       BTW, Calder remembers you as he mentioned meeting you at a
       convention before when he was younger. It was probably that same
       convention. He's a very good young man.
       #Post#: 7537--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Went To My First Competition Fly
   DIR By: Ty Coleman
       Date: June 2, 2011, 12:07 pm
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       Tou, I think that rollers are like a drug to some of us. They
       have become a way of life fo me. I try and plan my schedule
       around my birds lol not the other way around.
       #Post#: 7539--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Went To My First Competition Fly
   DIR By: n00bR0113rs
       Date: June 2, 2011, 11:32 pm
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       --- Quote from: Ty Coleman link ---
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       > Tou, I think that rollers are like a drug to some of us. They
       have become a way of life fo me. I try and plan my schedule
       around my birds lol not the other way around.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I totally agree
       #Post#: 7542--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Went To My First Competition Fly
   DIR By: charles_b
       Date: June 3, 2011, 4:38 pm
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       --- Quote from: Ty Coleman link ---
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       > Tou, I think that rollers are like a drug to some of us. They
       have become a way of life fo me. I try and plan my schedule
       around my birds lol not the other way around.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       
       My wife tried to send me to rehab. It didn't work so she bought
       her own pigeons and joined me in my addiction.
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