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       #Post#: 7323--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Secret Breeding
   DIR By: windjammer loft
       Date: May 23, 2011, 9:34 am
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       Jay...can you explain the statement you made??
       
       "You are not even close to be  a roller champion...... a
       real champion share information on all the difficlut part that
       they experience.....LMAO ....."
       
       Iam not quite sure what you mean...
       #Post#: 7327--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Secret Breeding
   DIR By: Jay_Mua_Lee
       Date: May 23, 2011, 11:53 am
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       I mean you know how different family require different way of
       breeding... and how to  pair em up....do you really just gotta
       randomly pair one with the other and see if baby ever come good
       or is there a secret (shortcut ) to figure the conclusion....
       Jay.....
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       Re: Secret Breeding
   DIR By: wishiwon2
       Date: May 23, 2011, 8:22 pm
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       --- Quote from: Jay Mua Lee link ---
       > ....do you really just gotta randomly pair one with the other
       and see if baby ever come good or is there a secret (shortcut )
       to figure the conclusion....
       >
       > Jay.....
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       It's neither shortcut nor secret. Its experience and it only
       comes by practice. There are things you can look for that will
       give you clues as to what a bird may produce in its progeny.
       Experience will teach you which of those clues are important in
       your matings. I cannot tell you what to look for in your birds.
       I have learned a few pitfalls to avoid in making selections to
       breed from, but I have yet to find anything that is fail-safe or
       garuantees a result. Time and attention is the only way I know
       of.
       
       The other thing that helps is quit looking at things from a
       detailed pair by pair or baby by baby perspective. Instead view
       it over the long term, broad perspective. Once you have formed a
       family of your rollers, strive to make them consistent in the
       traits you breed for. In other words over time, if you are
       consistent in your choices, there will become less and less
       variation between one to the other of individuals and kits.
       Ideally a family can become so similar that one could pull this
       bird and that and mate them up to get more of the same. Until
       then, we all have to consider the attributes each mate brings to
       the equation.
       
       Very few families or lofts ever make that level of consistancy
       or predictability. However, when you look back over say a 15-20
       yr span, you will see very similar trends and traits shown in a
       given family of rollers. That doesnt mean there weren't
       exceptions within it, or some amount of variability.
       
       Different families really arent that different, the better you
       put in, the better you will get out.
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