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#Post#: 7119--------------------------------------------------
JACONETTE
DIR By: tom wingfield
Date: May 13, 2011, 3:02 pm
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when i was in oregon years ago i flew mostly jaconette, cooper,
davis & sriber birds any body on here fley any of these. any
comments on eather line good or bad ,, i am a big boy and a old
fart i can take it....
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Re: JACONETTE
DIR By: lew3015
Date: May 13, 2011, 3:10 pm
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I have had a few that I purchased out of Hawkville California,
They flew good, came into the roll early, fairly easy to raise,
rolled hard and fast, really didn't kit all that well, than
within 6 to 8 months would hit the ground from about 400 feet
up.
Over on Rick Mees Forum site there is a lengthy thread on
jaconnets.
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Re: JACONETTE
DIR By: Cliff Ball
Date: May 13, 2011, 3:24 pm
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Tom Bobby Bradley ( Rest his soul) flew Jac's and did very
well with them. I don't know any of the particulars but Bobby
had a way with them. Clay Hoyle in North Carolina has acheived
Double Master Flyer with a Jac-based family....but he has
crossed in many other famiies. Cliff
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Re: JACONETTE
DIR By: joeb
Date: May 13, 2011, 5:45 pm
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Back in the 80s I had some Jacs that I acquired directly from
Richard Jaconnette. They turned out to be 99% rolldowns, tree
sitters, non-kitters or lazy. Good news is they quickly culled
themselves. Two years ago I acquired some Jacs from both Clay
Hoyle and Danny Horner. The Hoyle Jacs have some Bradley blood
behind them and are producing excellent spinners which are deep,
fast and stylish. The Horner Jacs not so much but in fairness I
have only had one breeding season from them. I have one from
that line that does show some promise so we will see.
Keep em spinning
Joe B
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Re: JACONETTE
DIR By: WhiteWing
Date: May 13, 2011, 7:24 pm
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I have been flying and raising Jaconette birds from Horner's
line for a few years now. The family I have are strong mentally
and physically. Highly intellingent birds. Great control in the
roll and with pulling out of it. They have been really good
little spinners and when I get an exceptionally deep one, it's
velocity almost always gets faster with depth. Mine have always
been tight kitting, and I have had very few problems. They are
easy for me to handle and predict now, but it's all in what you
get used to I guess. Im not looking to have any other line of
birds within the distant future, if ever. Wouldn't trade my
Jac's for nothing ;D
I'd like to hear from other rollermen's experiences working with
them, positive or negative, just to share some ideas.
-Caleb
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Re: JACONETTE
DIR By: oldfart
Date: May 16, 2011, 5:43 am
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I have a few of Bill Roy's Jacs. and I really like them. They
seem compatible with the Ruby's, I fly them together with no
real problems, same feed, same flying schedule, same management.
I tried a Ruby/Jaconnette cross this year as a side project. It
is too early to judge but I will let the board know how it went
later in the year.
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Re: JACONETTE
DIR By: Cliff Ball
Date: May 16, 2011, 11:55 am
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I love the flying speed and wingbeat speed that most Jacs just
seem to do naturally. On the other hand, most fanciers with Jacs
have a devil of a time keeping their flying altitude down within
scoring range, while keeping the speed and quality of the spin
up. Feeding properly in order to keep them from skying out and
the quality and speed seems to be lost. This is a
generalization, of course, and probably varies from sub-family
to sub-family within the Jac strain.
Cliff
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Re: JACONETTE
DIR By: joeb
Date: May 16, 2011, 12:36 pm
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Cliff, The Jacs I received from Clay Hoyle seem to thrive on the
wheat, milo, safflower mix that I feed my Vaughn based birds.
The Horners are another story, seem to want to sky and not kit
properly with the other birds. Hopefully this is just an
aberation.
Keep em spinning
Joe B
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Re: JACONETTE
DIR By: Cliff Ball
Date: May 16, 2011, 1:27 pm
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joe B,
Yes, I have seen guys bail on working with the Horners for that
reason. On the other hand, I have seen Clay post about trouble
keeping his birds down, but he always seem to handle them just
right on fly day!
Cliff
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Re: JACONETTE
DIR By: alohabirds
Date: May 16, 2011, 8:15 pm
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Aloha Tom,
I think you're on the right track with the pellets. I also fly
a Jac based family. When I first started I had a very hard time
keeping the old birds from skying out. The young birds didn't
have that problem until they hit the 9-10 month mark. I have
had luck with seperating the sexes and feeding them differently.
With my birds I have noticed that the hens were the ones that
were aspiring to be astronauts. The cocks could be fed almost
anything and still flew nice.
My old birds are kept on a modified yo-yo, the hens being fed
pellets and milo, cocks are fed pellets, wheat and milo.
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