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       #Post#: 7076--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is this the way of the roller hobby ?
   DIR By: Jay Knepp
       Date: May 12, 2011, 12:56 pm
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       Here is a video clip that some of you guys might enjoy.....I
       thought it kind of fit in here......Jay
       
       
       
       
       
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       #Post#: 7077--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is this the way of the roller hobby ?
   DIR By: Joe Asaro
       Date: May 12, 2011, 1:31 pm
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       Ty....That must make you monkey do and cliff monkey see. ::) Joe
       #Post#: 7078--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is this the way of the roller hobby ?
   DIR By: raul carreiro
       Date: May 12, 2011, 1:42 pm
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       --- Quote from: Joe Asaro link ---
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       > Ty....That must make you monkey do and cliff monkey see. ::)
       Joe
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       Joe, I believe its the other way around, Monkey See, Monkey Do!
       #Post#: 7079--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is this the way of the roller hobby ?
   DIR By: raul carreiro
       Date: May 12, 2011, 1:59 pm
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       Ty, Cliff, Your efforts to unite all in this hobby are very
       admirable!
       If you dont mind Ty I would like to add this. If we look at
       proffesional Football, all teams play by the same rules, just
       that all teams use different coaching tactics, and yes different
       color jerseys LOL!
       #Post#: 7080--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is this the way of the roller hobby ?
   DIR By: Joe Asaro
       Date: May 12, 2011, 2:01 pm
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       raul....I was making a point in placement ;D Joe
       #Post#: 7085--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is this the way of the roller hobby ?
   DIR By: Ty Coleman
       Date: May 12, 2011, 3:44 pm
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       --- Quote from: raul carreiro link ---
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       > [quote author=Joe Asaro link=topic=536.msg7077#msg7077
       date=1305225070]
       > Ty....That must make you monkey do and cliff monkey see. ::)
       Joe
       >
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       Joe, I believe its the other way around, Monkey See, Monkey Do!
       [/quote]
       LOL Raul, you must have missed some of the fly rules that I
       opposed Cliff on. James Turner and Cliff Ball are my mentors in
       this sport but I'll disagree with either one of them in a heart
       beat if I think they are wrong  ;D
       #Post#: 7086--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is this the way of the roller hobby ?
   DIR By: Ty Coleman
       Date: May 12, 2011, 3:47 pm
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       --- Quote from: WhiteWing link ---
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       > Ty, way to go for stepping out and saying what needed to be
       said on here.  I can vouch for this because I see all that goes
       on here from a beginners point of view.  I am a young flyer,
       (not 20 years of age yet) and I strive to get to the level of
       the old-timers in the hobby one day, but its a struggle with all
       of nay-sayers in the sport. I don't fly competitively, mainly
       because there is no club or organiztion near where I live, and I
       am also far from getting my birds to the level that I want them.
       Am I seeing progress? Yes.  I have come a long way since when I
       first started, but I have a lifetime to go.
       >
       > Don't get me wrong, there are many great guys on here and in
       the sport as well who are willing to help a beginner out and
       keeping down the negative critisism, but those kind of guys are
       sadly few and far in-between.
       >
       > Let me add to your analogy if I may.  What if one of the
       monkeys now, tore his way up the stairs to reach the banana and
       brought it back down to share with the rest of the group?  How
       fast would their attitude change then?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       
       Great post, I like your analogy. A few are shaking the ladder
       but havnt knocked this hard headed monkey off it yet ! But i'm
       not sure if i'll share with the ladder shakers in the end. ;D
       #Post#: 7087--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is this the way of the roller hobby ?
   DIR By: Cliff Ball
       Date: May 12, 2011, 3:59 pm
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       Joe A
       
       And how did you enjoy your bananas today? I had mine with ice
       cream! LOL! Welcome to the gathering Mr See no evil, hear no
       evil. :0)
       
       Cliff
       #Post#: 7088--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is this the way of the roller hobby ?
   DIR By: Cliff Ball
       Date: May 12, 2011, 4:02 pm
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       Joe A,
       I am just like you, one of the monkeys. If you want to talk
       placement, let's use the Master Flyer points.
       Cliff
       
       
       --- Quote from: Joe Asaro link ---
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       > raul....I was making a point in placement ;D Joe
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       #Post#: 7089--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is this the way of the roller hobby ?
   DIR By: WhiteWing
       Date: May 12, 2011, 4:34 pm
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       --- Quote from: joeb link ---
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       > [quote author=WhiteWing link=topic=536.msg7073#msg7073
       date=1305218724]
       > Ty, way to go for stepping out and saying what needed to be
       said on here.  I can vouch for this because I see all that goes
       on here from a beginners point of view.  I am a young flyer,
       (not 20 years of age yet) and I strive to get to the level of
       the old-timers in the hobby one day, but its a struggle with all
       of nay-sayers in the sport. I don't fly competitively, mainly
       because there is no club or organiztion near where I live, and I
       am also far from getting my birds to the level that I want them.
       Am I seeing progress? Yes.  I have come a long way since when I
       first started, but I have a lifetime to go.
       >
       > Don't get me wrong, there are many great guys on here and in
       the sport as well who are willing to help a beginner out and
       keeping down the negative critisism, but those kind of guys are
       sadly few and far in-between.
       >
       > Let me add to your analogy if I may.  What if one of the
       monkeys now, tore his way up the stairs to reach the banana and
       brought it back down to share with the rest of the group?  How
       fast would their attitude change then?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Well said Whitewing. The important thing is that you enjoy your
       birds and the friends you meet in the hobby. Pushing your birds
       forward is always good. Flying in competition is one way to
       measure if you are making any progress in that endeavor but not
       the only way. Keep your attitude and you will most likely be
       successful. Good luck!
       Keep em spinning
       Joe B
       [/quote]
       
       Thanks Joe.  I look up to a few of you guys on here as my
       mentors because I have only been in the hobby for a few years,
       and also because there are no serious local flyers nearby that I
       can share ideas with.  Sites like Tony's here is a great tool to
       use when no one else around speaks your lingo, as in my case.
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