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       #Post#: 7004--------------------------------------------------
       Re: World Cup Southeast Regionals 2011
       By: Cliff Ball Date: May 11, 2011, 12:10 pm
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       Jay/Ty,
       Thanks, guys. You guys are flying the same stuff! (No dark
       checks, Jay.....)
       Cliff
       
       
       [quote author=Jay Knepp link=topic=531.msg6942#msg6942
       date=1305067730]
       Cliff, congrats from here also.....how many of them dark checks
       were in that kit?
       
       Ty,
       You must have forgot, winning the region don't count. ::)
       Jay
       
       
       
       [quote author=Ty Coleman link=topic=531.msg6940#msg6940
       date=1305067131]
       Congrats Cliff ! I just wish you had more big names in your
       region to fly against being your family can't stand on their
       own. LOL :D
       [/quote]
       [/quote]
       #Post#: 7005--------------------------------------------------
       Re: World Cup Southeast Regionals 2011
       By: 2y4life Date: May 11, 2011, 12:11 pm
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       [quote author=Joe Asaro link=topic=531.msg6995#msg6995
       date=1305131649]
       How come southern ca  top scores are in the 1000 and in the
       south 500? Could this be more  high velocity true Birmingham
       Rollers being judged?  :o Joe
       [/quote]
       That's very disrespectful to Scott as well. His birds barely
       scored 9 points so if that's the case, the birds from the
       Carolinas are 50 times better than the Northern California birds
       but only half as good as the SoCal birds, right? Well played,
       sir.
       #Post#: 7007--------------------------------------------------
       Re: World Cup Southeast Regionals 2011
       By: Joe Asaro Date: May 11, 2011, 12:21 pm
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       Cliff......Congrats on your top placing on the fly. :D Joe
       #Post#: 7008--------------------------------------------------
       Re: World Cup Southeast Regionals 2011
       By: MOTHERLODELOFTS Date: May 11, 2011, 12:37 pm
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       Tou, you may want to do a little more homework on this
       
       
       
       (Don't make this into a coastal/regional thing because once you
       do, you've lost already. California, where I was born and raised
       and I consider my home state, has yet to win the World Cup.)
       #Post#: 7009--------------------------------------------------
       Re: World Cup Southeast Regionals 2011
       By: MOTHERLODELOFTS Date: May 11, 2011, 12:41 pm
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       No disrepect here, my effort isn't in my birds at this time as I
       spend most my waking hrs at this new business.  I flew only to
       support the region
       
       
       
       
       (That's very disrespectful to Scott as well. His birds barely
       scored 9 points so if that's the case, the birds from the
       Carolinas are 50 times better than the Northern California birds
       but only half as good as the SoCal birds, right? Well played,
       sir.)
       #Post#: 7011--------------------------------------------------
       Re: World Cup Southeast Regionals 2011
       By: 2y4life Date: May 11, 2011, 12:51 pm
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       [quote author=MOTHERLODELOFTS link=topic=531.msg7008#msg7008
       date=1305135446]
       
       Tou, you may want to do a little more homework on this
       
       
       
       (Don't make this into a coastal/regional thing because once you
       do, you've lost already. California, where I was born and raised
       and I consider my home state, has yet to win the World Cup.)
       [/quote]
       Whoops, man enough to admit my mistakes. Sorry Mr. Ouellette.
       As for Joe's post, Cliff's covered it. You can't compare across
       regions when there are different judges as well. Rick Mee won
       with a 200 score, Cliff with a 500, Paul Fullerton with a 9.8,
       Don Macauley a 190.
       Good job for all the men who participated. And yea Scott, I know
       of a few guys in the MN area whose bird's aren't really ready or
       at the quality they want yet but are flying just to support it.
       #Post#: 7012--------------------------------------------------
       Re: World Cup Southeast Regionals 2011
       By: Joe Asaro Date: May 11, 2011, 12:55 pm
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       2x4.....Now this should be refreshing. Off the where did this
       come from. :D Joe
       #Post#: 7015--------------------------------------------------
       Re: World Cup Southeast Regionals 2011
       By: joeb Date: May 11, 2011, 1:30 pm
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       [quote author=2y4life link=topic=531.msg7011#msg7011
       date=1305136268]
       [quote author=MOTHERLODELOFTS link=topic=531.msg7008#msg7008
       date=1305135446]
       
       Tou, you may want to do a little more homework on this
       
       
       
       (Don't make this into a coastal/regional thing because once you
       do, you've lost already. California, where I was born and raised
       and I consider my home state, has yet to win the World Cup.)
       [/quote]
       Whoops, man enough to admit my mistakes. Sorry Mr. Ouellette.
       As for Joe's post, Cliff's covered it. You can't compare across
       regions when there are different judges as well. Rick Mee won
       with a 200 score, Cliff with a 500, Paul Fullerton with a 9.8,
       Don Macauley a 190.
       Good job for all the men who participated. And yea Scott, I know
       of a few guys in the MN area whose bird's aren't really ready or
       at the quality they want yet but are flying just to support it.
       [/quote]
       Don't forget Robert Parker won also. Comparing regions is pure
       folly. different judges, different weather, etc. Look at Aubrey
       Thibidoux, scored 1000+ in the regionals and 42 in the finals.
       Congrats to Cliff for winning his region and good luck in the
       finals. Personally I think we have sold the farm with the
       foreign judges with their own standard and agendas. JMHO
       Keep em spinning
       Joe
       #Post#: 7016--------------------------------------------------
       Re: World Cup Southeast Regionals 2011
       By: MOTHERLODELOFTS Date: May 11, 2011, 1:32 pm
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       Joe, different judges hit the regionials all over the board
       depending on what they will or will not score. Some judge by
       higher standards and some simply don't have the experience , and
       some just don't want to make the hard calls.
       Trust me it is no fun handing out poor scores and multipliers,
       but it must be done, not all can do it though.
       Myself I like looking at the overall regions scores as it can
       tell a story of the judging, many times you will see no low
       multipliers such as 1.0 s 1.1 s or no low scores on a whole as
       an example.
       Or you see many high scores in the region and the entire region
       averages 1.5 multipliers (just an example here).
       The beauty is that normaly the finals judge has the experience
       to seperate the wheat from the chaff and we get a much clearer
       picture of reality , this current judge is no exception as he
       has prooven himself many times.
       Forget the regionial scores and keep an eye on the finals
       scores. This is where the rubber truely meets the road.
       
       
       
       [quote author=Joe Asaro link=topic=531.msg6995#msg6995
       date=1305131649]
       How come southern ca  top scores are in the 1000 and in the
       south 500? Could this be more  high velocity true Birmingham
       Rollers being judged?  :o Joe
       [/quote]
       #Post#: 7017--------------------------------------------------
       Re: World Cup Southeast Regionals 2011
       By: MOTHERLODELOFTS Date: May 11, 2011, 1:34 pm
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       Tou , Robert Parker holds that title also I believe
       
       
       
       
       [quote author=2y4life link=topic=531.msg7011#msg7011
       date=1305136268]
       [quote author=MOTHERLODELOFTS link=topic=531.msg7008#msg7008
       date=1305135446]
       
       Tou, you may want to do a little more homework on this
       
       
       
       (Don't make this into a coastal/regional thing because once you
       do, you've lost already. California, where I was born and raised
       and I consider my home state, has yet to win the World Cup.)
       [/quote]
       Whoops, man enough to admit my mistakes. Sorry Mr. Ouellette.
       As for Joe's post, Cliff's covered it. You can't compare across
       regions when there are different judges as well. Rick Mee won
       with a 200 score, Cliff with a 500, Paul Fullerton with a 9.8,
       Don Macauley a 190.
       Good job for all the men who participated. And yea Scott, I know
       of a few guys in the MN area whose bird's aren't really ready or
       at the quality they want yet but are flying just to support it.
       [/quote]
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