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#Post#: 6820--------------------------------------------------
Re: Loft Aviary
DIR By: POLARBEAR
Date: May 7, 2011, 12:03 pm
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--- Quote from: Jay Knepp link ---
>
> If you breed in an open loft how can you be sure a bird is
what the pedigree says it is.....personally I want to be 100%
sure.....not 80% sure but 100% sure.... Twenty years down the
road I want to be able to say that these birds lineage is 100%
exact what the pedigree shows them to be....Don't be mistaken I
am not a pedigree breeder...but when I see a bird in the kit
that is good enough to test in the broodloft I want to be
absolutely sure that I know where the goods are coming
from.......Now some of you are saying that if you have a tight
bred family it does not matter if they jump mates.....well to me
it does and that is why I chose to breed individually.
> I did not post this to get at anyone nor to be critical but I
have been around registered livestock all my life and my Dad
always taught me how important it is to be sure of every
mating......he always said that one illegitimate mating will
compromise your whole stud ......I guess I am like my Dad
because I am drilling that into my sons also.
Jay
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JAY I AM LIKE YOU WITH BREEDING. I LIKE MY INDIVIDUALS FOR 100%
ACCURACY IN MATINGS. MY INDIVIDUALS ARE 3FT X 2.5FT X 2.5FT
WHICH GIVES THE BIRDS A GOOD AMOUNT OF ROOM FOR BREEDING IN.
THEY ARE ONLY IN THEM FOR 3 TO 4 MONTHS AND THEN BACK TO THE HEN
AND COCK OPEN LOFTS.
THERE WAS A LOCAL FANCIER THAT HAD SHOW BIRDS FOR YEARS. HE
BREED IN A OPEN LOFT HIS WHOLE LIFE, OVER TIME HE NOTICED HIS
SHOW BIRDS GETTING TO BIG IN SIZE SO HE STARTED CULLING HIS
LARGER BIRDS. IN THE NEXT 2-3 YEARS HIS BIG BIRDS WERE STILL
SHOWING UP THE SAME NUMBERS AS BEFORE.
HE GOT AHOLD OF THE GUYS WHO BOUGHT HIS BIGGER BIRDS AND THEY
PRODUCED 90% SMALL/SHOW QUALITY STOCK FOR THEM. THAT IS WHEN HE
WISHED HE HAD BREED IN INDIVIDUALS SO HE KNEW EXACTLY WHICH
BIRDS WERE BREEDING THE BIG BIRDS.
USING INDIVUDUALS IS NOT FOR EVERYONE, THE FACT IS AS LONG AS
YOU GET THE ENJOYMENT FROM THE BIRDS WHO CARES HOW THEY ARE
BREED.
#Post#: 6822--------------------------------------------------
Re: Loft Aviary
DIR By: velo99
Date: May 7, 2011, 1:16 pm
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Most of my birds are related so it really doesnt matter to me.
Now whats gonna really mess you up is if you get an uh oh baby
and its good...
There are two sides to every arguement and an equal and opposite
reaction for every action.
The only thing I see thats neccessary in an open loft is enough
space for every pair and a couple of extras. I have pairs that
have been breeding in the same box for three years now. If the
wrong cockbird gets in her box that hen is going to open a can
of whoopass on him. The main thing I did on my new loft was make
the boxes easily protectable by thier occupants.
Keep an extra bowl and nesting materials in the box and the pair
have no reason to lay on the floor. Sometimes I get a new pair
thats a little flighty when I pull eggs to foster and they move
around to a new box.
I had a new pair lay eggs in an empty bowl. I put some pine
straw in it and they abandoned the nest. They took the pine
straw from the old bowl and put it in the other bowl and she
laid in it. lol
Pigeons are weird.
#Post#: 6847--------------------------------------------------
Re: Loft Aviary
DIR By: windjammer loft
Date: May 9, 2011, 7:33 am
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After reading all these posts I have come to the conclusion that
putting my birds in individual breeding pens just might have
been my "problem" all along for the last 2 breeding season.
Since I have not used the "open" loft method for many many
years..
I have to agree with Paul, Cliff and Keith somewhat but, with
afew questions..
Would any of you guys walk me thru this proceedure? Do I just
put all my birds in an open loft with enough nestboxes to
accomidate them all or what?? Some pic of your set-up would
really be appreaciated and more explanation on "How to's"??
#Post#: 6869--------------------------------------------------
Re: Loft Aviary
DIR By: Johnnie Williams
Date: May 9, 2011, 3:29 pm
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I have both use indlvldual then open for fosters if possible--
but if no eggs to move let fosters breed and fly out young- may
turn out GREAT or CULL-- all Birmingham Rollers except 1 pair of
oriental Rollers in individual make great fosters.
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