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       #Post#: 6721--------------------------------------------------
       Re: College Educations
       By: raul carreiro Date: May 1, 2011, 6:57 am
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       [quote author=MOTHERLODELOFTS link=topic=513.msg6719#msg6719
       date=1304223279]
       Raul, proud ? no .. God picked me up at age 27 and changed my
       life.. trust me it was none of my doing.
       
       Scott
       
       
       
       [quote author=raul carreiro link=topic=513.msg6717#msg6717
       date=1304196871]
       Having a College Education certainly does have its benifits! For
       example when was the last time you have seen  well manicured
       Colledge educated CEOs in some of the worlds top Fortune 500
       companys having to wipe up the mess that they have left behind?
       Education comes in many forms!! Scott you have every right to be
       proud  in knowing that like me  and many others who did not
       finish High school It is persons like US that they look to , to
       bail them out!!!!!!
       [/quote]
       [/quote]
       
       Scott, When i say you should be proud, I mean not that you
       should be proud of not graduating, but proud of your
       accomplishments despite you not having done so. Your not bad at
       flying B.Rollers either  ;D  I know of a few that the only thing
       they have to show for their colledge education is a certificate
       with degree on It! Its how one plays the hand he is dealt in
       life that makes him or her the better person! Im 46, debt free
       and have been retired for 3 yrs now! My son is now thy ceo of my
       Construction & Home development co. I graduated from the
       University of Hard Knocks and Hard Work!
       
       #Post#: 6730--------------------------------------------------
       Re: College Educations
       By: joeb Date: May 2, 2011, 2:42 pm
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       Education doesn't necessarily make one smarter than one with
       less education. It can open some doors that otherwise might be
       closed. How one combines their education with common sense and a
       work ethic is what makes a difference. Some of the most
       incapable people I ever met were not capable of pouring piss out
       of a boot because they had no sense or work ethics.
       Keep em spinning
       JoeB
       #Post#: 6731--------------------------------------------------
       Re: College Educations
       By: WhiteWing Date: May 2, 2011, 2:55 pm
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       [quote author=joeb link=topic=513.msg6730#msg6730
       date=1304365334]
       Education doesn't necessarily make one smarter than one with
       less education. It can open some doors that otherwise might be
       closed. How one combines their education with common sense and a
       work ethic is what makes a difference. Some of the most
       incapable people I ever met were not capable of pouring piss out
       of a boot because they had no sense or work ethics.
       Keep em spinning
       JoeB
       [/quote]
       
       Well said. Education is by no means the key to success in every
       field, but it can help open some doors.  Common sense goes a
       long way and i'll agree, I would much rather have the smarts to
       get in out of the rain than be the holder of a Ph.D.  As Tony
       stated by example in a previous post, education isn't everything
       and even the most educated make the biggest mistakes.
       
       I am blessed to have the opportunity of going to college so I
       took it.  I'm a young guy, not married yet, not under the
       strains of providing for a household so I have the time to go to
       school and pursue a degree in hopes of obtaining a better job.
       If it never helps me get a better job, then so be it.  I am
       capable and experienced in plenty of other trades to never NEED
       it, and I can definitely survive without it.
       #Post#: 6732--------------------------------------------------
       Re: College Educations
       By: 2y4life Date: May 2, 2011, 3:29 pm
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       Some see a college education as a back up plan and if it is the
       best back-up plan one can have. If you don't need it, good for
       you. But if you happen to need it, it will always come in handy.
       Whether you have one or not, having one is the safer option. Are
       there billionaires who don't hold a college degree? Of course
       (Bill Gates anyone) but most of the billionaires do hold a
       degree in some field and it is increasing even more. One can
       succeed in life without a college degree, one could even succeed
       in life without a high school degree but your chances of making
       money and living comfortably goes up with a degree. It's like
       saying "can a man build a great stock of rollers by purchasing
       rollers from a swap? It is quite possible and has happened to a
       select few but your chances are infinitely higher if you can get
       rollers from an established flyer with an establish family".
       With that said A college education is not a necessity and is not
       the ultimate measure of a man or woman. A man is not defined by
       how long he went to school but by what he does with what he has
       and how he does it.
       
       #Post#: 6734--------------------------------------------------
       Re: College Educations
       By: raul carreiro Date: May 2, 2011, 6:14 pm
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       [quote author=WhiteWing link=topic=513.msg6731#msg6731
       date=1304366137]
       [quote author=joeb link=topic=513.msg6730#msg6730
       date=1304365334]
       Education doesn't necessarily make one smarter than one with
       less education. It can open some doors that otherwise might be
       closed. How one combines their education with common sense and a
       work ethic is what makes a difference. Some of the most
       incapable people I ever met were not capable of pouring piss out
       of a boot because they had no sense or work ethics.
       Keep em spinning
       JoeB
       [/quote]
       
       Well said. Education is by no means the key to success in every
       field, but it can help open some doors.  Common sense goes a
       long way and i'll agree, I would much rather have the smarts to
       get in out of the rain than be the holder of a Ph.D.  As Tony
       stated by example in a previous post, education isn't everything
       and even the most educated make the biggest mistakes.
       
       I am blessed to have the opportunity of going to college so I
       took it.  I'm a young guy, not married yet, not under the
       strains of providing for a household so I have the time to go to
       school and pursue a degree in hopes of obtaining a better job.
       If it never helps me get a better job, then so be it.  I am
       capable and experienced in plenty of other trades to never NEED
       it, and I can definitely survive without it.
       [/quote]
       Whitewing, What you are saying makes no sence here what so ever!
       If you feel  you will never need a college education why persuit
       it??? Let me guess?? Actually I already know the answer!!!!!!
       #Post#: 6739--------------------------------------------------
       Re: College Educations
       By: WhiteWing Date: May 2, 2011, 10:14 pm
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       [quote author=raul carreiro link=topic=513.msg6734#msg6734
       date=1304378064]
       [quote author=WhiteWing link=topic=513.msg6731#msg6731
       date=1304366137]
       [quote author=joeb link=topic=513.msg6730#msg6730
       date=1304365334]
       Education doesn't necessarily make one smarter than one with
       less education. It can open some doors that otherwise might be
       closed. How one combines their education with common sense and a
       work ethic is what makes a difference. Some of the most
       incapable people I ever met were not capable of pouring piss out
       of a boot because they had no sense or work ethics.
       Keep em spinning
       JoeB
       [/quote]
       
       Well said. Education is by no means the key to success in every
       field, but it can help open some doors.  Common sense goes a
       long way and i'll agree, I would much rather have the smarts to
       get in out of the rain than be the holder of a Ph.D.  As Tony
       stated by example in a previous post, education isn't everything
       and even the most educated make the biggest mistakes.
       
       I am blessed to have the opportunity of going to college so I
       took it.  I'm a young guy, not married yet, not under the
       strains of providing for a household so I have the time to go to
       school and pursue a degree in hopes of obtaining a better job.
       If it never helps me get a better job, then so be it.  I am
       capable and experienced in plenty of other trades to never NEED
       it, and I can definitely survive without it.
       [/quote]
       Whitewing, What you are saying makes no sence here what so ever!
       If you feel  you will never need a college education why persuit
       it??? Let me guess?? Actually I already know the answer!!!!!!
       [/quote]
       
       And what's your answer there Raul?
       #Post#: 7731--------------------------------------------------
       Re: College Educations
       By: Backyard_Birds Date: June 16, 2011, 9:26 pm
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       What is Success?? Is it the clothes you wear, the car you drive,
       the house you live in? Success is measured not just in what you
       have, but rather what you started with... Wealthy people we view
       as successful in life (if actually analyzed) show no trace of
       success. Ex: Born in a wealthy family, and passing away as a
       wealthy person, what have they accomplished? I view success as a
       person who is given nothing, works to get something average then
       with hard work and dedication turns it into something that shows
       the world they were here. Owners of rollers know all too well
       that it is easy to say you have birds, even easier to buy birds
       to fly, however thats not what we enjoy, its the satisfaction of
       knowing what our flocks were like when we started and what they
       are like today... Its those great men who played with genetics
       and developed rollers (for the love of the bird as well as
       research) that I view as successful and I admire... No degree on
       this earth can gain you trust, respect, or love those are gained
       by your actions. What can you take with you to the grave?? Only
       thing I can think of is a smile so do what makes you smile  ;D
       ... I do and the birds love the exercise...
       #Post#: 7733--------------------------------------------------
       Re: College Educations
       By: Paul Conway Date: June 16, 2011, 10:34 pm
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       gotta disagree a little bit.  i was impressed with my small
       circle of close friends including myself who went on to be
       educators, a lawyer, an engineer, etc.  It became quiet obvious
       through the years of college and years later (now 20+ years
       later)  that we learned to go about the solution to a problem
       from very different persepectives and thinking- the engineer,
       the lawyer and the teacher. Now the  specific folks I'm thinking
       about (myself being one) had a predispostion to these three
       fields prior to going into them, but that affinity was shaped
       and honed in college, and the critical thinking process in all
       three groups is distinctly different and that has much to do
       with college.     Paul Conway.
       #Post#: 7734--------------------------------------------------
       Re: College Educations
       By: Backyard_Birds Date: June 16, 2011, 10:53 pm
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       I understand your point, I have a degree myself, however like my
       professor used to tell us "when we enter the class we will be
       confused, uneducated and inexperienced we will have questions
       that need answers and problems that need solving. When we leave
       we will be confused on a higher level, still inexperienced, our
       questions will have led to more questions, we will have
       discovered other problems that need solving, but at least we
       will be educated". ;)  My focus on this topic is merely about
       leaving your mark and stepping outside of the norm and doing
       what makes you happy. If nothing more than building bird houses,
       make the best D@mn bird houses the world has ever seen... No
       degree can provide happiness (it might make life's journey a
       little less painful) but we all reach the same finish line just
       make your race count no one's headstone reads (Here Lies ____
       Harvard Graduate with various publications in
       blahblahblahblah...)
       #Post#: 7735--------------------------------------------------
       Re: College Educations
       By: MOTHERLODELOFTS Date: June 16, 2011, 11:58 pm
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       I have found that true success is quality of life .. it took me
       a while to figure this out.
       
       Scott
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