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       #Post#: 6269--------------------------------------------------
       building a new loft this year 
       By: scott70 Date: April 20, 2011, 12:50 pm
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       hi I am in no rush but I am going to build a new loft this year
       it will be 10 feet wide buy 20 feet long this will be my new
       breeding loft also 7 foot tall I would be great full for any
       Ideas you may have also I will be breeding in pair cages so no
       open loft breeding want to make sure who the pairs are do to the
       fact I will be starting out with 2 familys of birds and dont
       want them crossing and a idea of how many pairs I could  keep in
       this new loft there will be an area for hens and anothere for
       cocks when they are not being breed
       #Post#: 6276--------------------------------------------------
       Re: building a new loft this year 
       By: Jay Knepp Date: April 20, 2011, 1:31 pm
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       Scott70,
       My loft is 10' x 18' I have a small area for feed two 5' x 4'
       6" open loft areas for my foster pairs and 9 individual breeder
       cages that are 30" x 30" x 28" tall.   Under the individual
       breeders I have 4 pens that I use for holding pens when I need
       extra room or I can use them for breeders if I want.   I applaud
       you for doing the individual cages it makes for more work but it
       is well worth it if you like to keep accurate records, I would
       never go back to open loft after having my individual cages for
       a few years.           Jay
       #Post#: 6278--------------------------------------------------
       Re: building a new loft this year 
       By: Joe Asaro Date: April 20, 2011, 1:41 pm
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       Scott70.....If you go 20 X 12 you can use full size plywood
       sheets and no extra cuts for the floor. ;D Joe
       #Post#: 6279--------------------------------------------------
       Re: building a new loft this year 
       By: Joe Asaro Date: April 20, 2011, 1:50 pm
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       Scott70... Have 4X4 ft kit pens the whole front of your loft
       and two can be for breakup cocks and hens and the others three
       for flying and you walk into all of them from the inside.  8)
       Joe
       #Post#: 6280--------------------------------------------------
       Re: building a new loft this year 
       By: scott70 Date: April 20, 2011, 1:51 pm
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       hi Jay can you by chance send some pics of your loft that would
       be a great help
       
       Joe I am trying to push out to a 12 by 20 but I live in the city
       and have to watch what I do but thank you for the info Joe I
       like that I dea but space is tight
       #Post#: 6283--------------------------------------------------
       Re: building a new loft this year 
       By: Joe Asaro Date: April 20, 2011, 3:07 pm
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       Scott70....Whatever you end up with, Enjoy your hobby. 8) Joe
       #Post#: 6286--------------------------------------------------
       Re: building a new loft this year 
       By: Sound Rollers Date: April 20, 2011, 5:09 pm
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       What ever you build, think about the air you'll breath while
       your in the loft. If I was building a new loft; it would have 10
       foot outer opening doors. I would design it so i could open the
       doors and windows and have a 100% air exchange. Two sides would
       be completely open in the spring and summer time with the roof
       for shade.
       John
       #Post#: 6353--------------------------------------------------
       Re: building a new loft this year 
       By: scott70 Date: April 22, 2011, 4:00 am
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       we are no longer going to be building our new loft we are
       getting out of rollers but thank you for you help
       #Post#: 6356--------------------------------------------------
       Re: building a new loft this year 
       By: Sound Rollers Date: April 22, 2011, 7:13 am
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       Scott, that was a quick change of thought. If you don't mind,
       can you explain why your getting out of rollers?
       John[quote author=scott70 link=topic=496.msg6353#msg6353
       date=1303462854]
       we are no longer going to be building our new loft we are
       getting out of rollers but thank you for you help
       [/quote]
       #Post#: 6368--------------------------------------------------
       Re: building a new loft this year 
       By: Sound Rollers Date: April 22, 2011, 12:46 pm
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       Scott, you start with two birds, if their offspring roll 20 to
       30 ft with good form, you keep breeding. You sound bitter. Just
       have fun.  [quote author=scott70 link=topic=496.msg6361#msg6361
       date=1303491672]
       Sound Rollers We are getting out for 2 reasons one as a family
       just getting back in there is no way to tell what you should
       start with and what you shouldnt so why try the othere reason is
       WE started all this for fun and it has turned in to a great big
       money pit with no standered of bird to go with and no set rulles
       to go buy what is the point of having them  at least hommers
       have a set of rules for your birds heck even show birds do to
       and I cant stand show birds lol but take care and thank you for
       your Ideas
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