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Wasted feed
By: Sound Rollers Date: April 8, 2011, 10:45 am
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What is the best, less wasteful feed for breeders?
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Re: Wasted feed
By: alohabirds Date: April 8, 2011, 11:57 am
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PELLETS
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Re: Wasted feed
By: RollerChief Date: April 8, 2011, 12:32 pm
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I tried all kinds of feed and Pellets are the way to go.Babies
are just as healthy and not as much waste. David
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Re: Wasted feed
By: lew3015 Date: April 8, 2011, 1:03 pm
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Sound Rollers, Is this a trick Question? ;)
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Re: Wasted feed
By: Joe Asaro Date: April 8, 2011, 1:43 pm
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Purina Nutria Blend Green. They don't waste it if they can get
to it. They clean it up.
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Re: Wasted feed
By: 2y4life Date: April 8, 2011, 1:51 pm
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Purina NutriBlend Green is very good pellets especially for
breeders. The only thing of caution for very specific flyers,
the main ingredient is corn and most competitive flyers stay
away from corn. It's also very high in protein, 18%.
Pellets is the way to go not to waste. The negatives are that
they drink more water and the droppings tend to be softer/not as
solid either.
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Re: Wasted feed
By: Joe Asaro Date: April 8, 2011, 2:03 pm
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I have never had them drink more water with straight Purina
nutria blend green and have never had less trouble flying with
them on nutria blend green. Remember comp flying is far from the
only way to have (FUN) raising rollers :D . PS 2y4 no more eye
roll :) Joe
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Re: Wasted feed
By: Sound Rollers Date: April 8, 2011, 2:28 pm
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No Lew it's not a trick question, I just find a lot of wasted
food in the loft. They eat their preferred seed. I don't want to
not feed them and make them it it all in fear of the squabs
crops going empty. Its cold at night.[quote author=lew3015
link=topic=477.msg5981#msg5981 date=1302285790]
Sound Rollers, Is this a trick Question? ;)
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Re: Wasted feed
By: 2y4life Date: April 8, 2011, 2:37 pm
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Lol Joe. I wasn't being mean/rude at all so I don't quite get
the rolling of the eyes. Seems like someone's looking for the
smallest possible slight at all times, huh? I was simply stating
that for those who DO compete, there's a lot of corn in the
Purina NutriBlend so they know that.
Gotta read more careful as I did say "specific
flyers...competitiv e flyers".
The only thing of caution for very SPECIFIC FLYERS, the main
ingredient is corn and most competitive flyers stay away from
corn.
I don't compete either and never stated that comp flying is the
only fun way of raising rollers. I was simply stating some facts
so people who want to feed pellets will understand what's in it
or the effects of it. I've thoroughly enjoyed the hobby without
the competition aspect. I never stated anything about something
being more or less fun. That is you making assumptions out of
nothing.
Again, the positive of pellets is no more wasting of feed and
picking out certain seeds and leaving others. Also, the birds
get all the nutrients they need instead of only picking out
their "favorite" seeds. Babies also grow very well, if not
better with pellets. Not to mention they will eat alot less
grit.
And the negative is they do seem to drink more water (generally
speaking), droppings are less solid, and there's alot of corn in
the pellets not to mention quite a bit of powder waste.
Personally, when I had a loft, I did use pellets along with
grain every so often. Pellets, to me, were more beneficial but I
did notice the change in droppings.
Some info on pros and cons of pellets/grain from a avian vet.
To produce racing pellets, the level of each vitamin, mineral
and amino acid can be calculated for the average grain blend.
Where deficiencies or imbalances are identified, a pellet can be
produced to correct these and create a balanced and complete
diet when added to the grain mix at a particular proportion.
Most racing pellets are designed to be added to a grain blend at
around 10%. With the use of pellets (be they racing or
maintenance pellets) there is no need to provide any other
supplement – in fact, their use just distorts the correct diet.
The only additional food items the birds need are grit and
water.
Disadvantages of Pellets
So what are the disadvantages:
1. Palatability – Pigeons that are not accustomed to pellets
initially do not like them and will select grain every time.
Usually racing pellets are accepted more readily than
maintenance pellets. It takes most birds 2 – 3 days to become
used to them.
2. Watery droppings – Birds fed pellets initially drink more.
This makes their droppings wet. Usually within 2 – 3 weeks water
intake becomes normal and the droppings improve. Usually however
birds on the maintenance pellets, but not racing pellets, have
droppings that are not quite as tight as those fed grain.
3. Wastage in the bag – Because the pellets rub against each
other in the bag, some powder is produced. This leads to a small
amount of wastage.
These disadvantages have got to be offset against the enormous
advantage of providing a complete nutritious diet. Advantages
such as healthier more fertile longer-lived stock birds,
increased disease resistance, and improved race performance. I
would strongly encourage fanciers to consider the use of
pelletted rations.
Another article courtesy of slobberknockers.
HTML http://www.slobberknockerlofts.com/artpellets.htm
[quote author=Joe Asaro link=topic=477.msg5988#msg5988
date=1302289431]
I have never had them drink more water with straight Purina
nutria blend green and have never had less trouble flying with
them on nutria blend green. Remember comp flying is far from the
only way to have (FUN) raising rollers. ??? ::) Joe
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Re: Wasted feed
By: lew3015 Date: April 8, 2011, 3:18 pm
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[quote author=Sound Rollers link=topic=477.msg5989#msg5989
date=1302290933]
No Lew it's not a trick question, I just find a lot of wasted
food in the loft. They eat their preferred seed. I don't want to
not feed them and make them it it all in fear of the squabs
crops going empty. Its cold at night.[/quote]
The question just seemed like something a newbie, such as myself
would ask!
I also feed pellets to my breeders and I still get a little
waste from from them, but not like grain, if you keep pellets in
front of them all the time, the breeders will pick through them
and still throw out some.
If you keep them hungry, they will eat everyone up, but they may
not feed the babies as well. so you have to expect a little
waste no matter what you feed, with pellets it will be less.
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