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       #Post#: 5663--------------------------------------------------
       Flying Ruby's
   DIR By: lew3015
       Date: March 21, 2011, 11:34 am
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       Looking for some insight from experienced Ruby Fliers.
       Thanks
       Lew
       #Post#: 5835--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Flying Ruby's
   DIR By: Tony Chavarria
       Date: April 1, 2011, 4:12 am
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       Hello Lew, email me a current phone number and I will speak with
       you. Too many questions and I would have to write a book to
       answer all of them adequately.
       #Post#: 5953--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Flying Ruby's
   DIR By: lew3015
       Date: April 5, 2011, 4:57 pm
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       Thanks Tony for the call and info on Flying Ruby's, hopefully
       others will chime in and post some of their experiences.
       Today I flew my Kit of young Ruby's, they are all less than a
       year old, it was a bit windier than what I like to fly in, but
       the sun finally came out and is wasn't snowing, so I let them
       out.
       I have had them on straight wheat now, a tablespoon for each
       bird in their feed tray, Been wondering if that was enough,
       because it didn't look like there was nearly enough, but
       apparently it was, they flew for 15 min today even with fighting
       the wind. The birds did stay together better as a kit, they all
       landed and trapped in within 10 min,  ;D  I know now I have been
       over feeding, I Learned something.
       #Post#: 5955--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Flying Ruby's
   DIR By: raul carreiro
       Date: April 5, 2011, 7:21 pm
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       Hi Lew. when I start to fly young Rubys I feed them a regular
       mix, about 1-2 tbs per bird until they start to kit and are
       flying well for about 1hr. When they begin to come into the roll
       I cut them back gradually to 1-1.5 tbs of feed consisting of 60%
       wheat 40% milo.  They will fly 30 to 45 min on this! I then
       again after a few weeks cut down their feed to 1tbs each 75%
       wheat 25% milo.They will fly 30-20mins on this. About once a
       week I also give them 1tsp of pellets along with their regular
       wheat and milo called Manna pro poultry conditioner  and boy the
       next day do they put on a show! With my Rubys I have found that
       if I keep them too long on just wheat they get a bit too hot.
       #Post#: 5963--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Flying Ruby's
   DIR By: lew3015
       Date: April 6, 2011, 11:35 am
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       Thank you Raul, This is very helpful information, My birds are
       already coming into the roll, some are getting hot now. So it's
       time to cut the wheat so to speak.
       Any other flyers out there all info is appreciated.
       #Post#: 6392--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Flying Ruby's
   DIR By: lew3015
       Date: April 22, 2011, 10:33 pm
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       I have been flying everyday the weather allows and they are
       starting to come together better. they now will fly a good 1/2
       hour, than trap right back in when called and given their feed.
       I did have to pull out a couple of the youngest birds out,
       because they still wanted to land early which wanted to bring
       down some of the others. The kit is forming but still not real
       tight with a few doing some impressive rolls, fast quick blur
       type rolls, all are rolling now, I have them on a tbl spoon per
       bird of 2/3 wheat, 1/3 pellet, than follow up with a tbl spoon
       per bird of milo, They act like they would still eat a horse, is
       this enough feed? This is a young kit of birds going on about 10
       mouths old.
       #Post#: 6394--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Flying Ruby's
   DIR By: Joe Asaro
       Date: April 22, 2011, 10:41 pm
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       low3015.... try putting one of the pulled birds back in a day or
       so and see if it stays up with the kit. If it does then the next
       day put the other one back and see if it kits.Some times that is
       all it takes. Don't be to quick to cull. 8) Joe
       #Post#: 6603--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Flying Ruby's
   DIR By: wannaroll
       Date: April 26, 2011, 10:04 am
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       Lew at that age your birds should all be going in the trap like
       pirrana going after a chicken. If they are not you are still
       feeding them too much. One of the hardest things to do with
       rollers is to cut their feed back. It is human nature to feed
       them more because they act sooooo.... hungry all the time.
       #Post#: 6638--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Flying Ruby's
   DIR By: lew3015
       Date: April 26, 2011, 7:04 pm
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       They are definitely trapping in good, and yes they act hungry
       enough to eat your arm if your holding any feed in your hand,
       They are flying now around 20 min, kitting but loosely, I think
       as they get older they will kit tighter.
       The question still remains, how do you know when they are
       getting enough to eat without over feeding?
       #Post#: 6639--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Flying Ruby's
   DIR By: oldfart
       Date: April 26, 2011, 7:41 pm
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       Lew, Remember they are still growing, developing babies, slowly
       increase their food until they are flying the time you want.
       Twenty minutes is not enough ( IMO ) to build muscle and gain
       endurance when they come into the roll. I do agree that control
       of your kit is important but not at the cost of nutrition.
       Patience is as important in management as obedience.
       
       Take care my friend
       Thom
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