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       #Post#: 5127--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NBRC HOF and Membership
   DIR By: 2y4life
       Date: February 14, 2011, 7:44 pm
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       There is a max of 3 inductees per year.
       Since its inception, there were 14 years where 2 or more people
       were inducted in 23 years.
       But yes Steve, I do agree with you. The last of our worries is
       HOF members. They clearly deserve to be honored and if the day
       comes to where we have enough members to fill up the back page,
       we can just add another page. They sure as hell deserve it, men
       like Pensom, Lavin, Smith, Grover, Higgins, Plona, Baker, Dallas
       and the rest.
       #Post#: 5132--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NBRC HOF and Membership
   DIR By: donnie james
       Date: February 14, 2011, 9:00 pm
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       hay 2y4life,
       at the portsmouth roller club we adopted a system  that when you
       have 20 years in (and up there in years 65 and older) that you
       became a life time member and you didn't have to pay your dues
       and i have agree with scott if they don't pay theirs dues get
       them out of there and the nbrc should change the rules so
       younger guys can get in there how i understand it you have to be
       60 years old to get into the hof .............i better close
       before i get myself in trouble because i wrote an article about
       the hof and sent to few people and it didn't go over to well and
       i was called a "LAIR" from a old president of the nbrc over that
       article....................donnie james
       #Post#: 5133--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NBRC HOF and Membership
   DIR By: 2y4life
       Date: February 14, 2011, 9:14 pm
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       Donny, just to see if I have this correct. In the Portsmouth
       Roller Club, after 20 years in, you don't have to pay your dues
       and you become a lifetime member. Yet how can you agree that one
       can be a Hall of Fame member yet still have to pay your dues to
       be a member? You just stated yourself that in your club, after
       putting in enough years, you get a free lifetime membership so
       why the difference? These HOF members have put in more than 20
       years into helping and establishing the roller fancy and the
       NBRC.
       BTW, there is no age limit/requirement in the NBRC Hall of Fame.
       I'm not sure where you are getting the information from. The
       youngest guy inducted to the NBRC HOF was 44 years old and the
       oldest guy was 85. So there is no age limit or age requirement.
       Anyone from anywhere in the world can be inducted into the HOF.
       All you have to do is submit a person for consideration and it
       is up to the current HOF members to vote on it.
       If you don't mind, I'd love to read your article personally. If
       that is alright, let me know and I'll shoot you my email via
       personal message and you can send it to me there. If you don't
       want to share it, I understand as well.
       #Post#: 5135--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NBRC HOF and Membership
   DIR By: donnie james
       Date: February 14, 2011, 10:32 pm
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       hay 2y4life,
       yeah you got that right after 20 years you don't have pay your
       dues we done that to help to the older members out as well
       getting them to come back to the club and if they want to pay
       their dues it ok we try to get  the old timer to come back to
       give the younger guys advice on raising birds and flying birds
       and etc. i guess i was misinformed on the requirements sure i'll
       send you a copy of my article about the hof give me a private
       email at mrprc1@yahoo.com with your mailing address and i can
       send it snail to you ...............donny james
       #Post#: 5136--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NBRC HOF and Membership
   DIR By: MOTHERLODELOFTS
       Date: February 14, 2011, 11:02 pm
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       Honestly Steve I think that they are just trying to fill slots
       in some instances .. many have worked hard for the club with no
       consideration... It is somewhat of a popularity contest to some
       degree... but no doubt more than a few deserve to reconition
       
       
       
       --- Quote from: Steve49 link ---
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       > Scott, are you saying the HOF members should, in your opinion,
       not get a lifetime membership? i want to be sure i fully
       understand your reasoning, because on the surface it seems a bit
       strong. i think the nbrc can add a page, if necessary to list
       the growing list of HOF members. btw, doesn't the HOF add a
       member per year? before we have to worry about how much room
       will be taken up by all these guys, we'll be dead ourselves. ???
       ?
       >
       >
       >
       > [quote author=MOTHERLODELOFTS link=topic=396.msg5087#msg5087
       date=1297657936]
       > If they are still alive and yet not members their names should
       be removed .. before long they will be taking up the entire back
       of the bulliten
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       [/quote]
       #Post#: 5138--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NBRC HOF and Membership
   DIR By: Sound Rollers
       Date: February 15, 2011, 5:19 am
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       What does the membership dues have to do with the Hall of Fame?
       These Master Flyers are not in the HOF for paying their dues on
       time! I would like to think they're in for personal achievement.
       Last time I checked George Herman Ruth "The Babe" hasn't paid
       any dues lately. JMTOT.
       #Post#: 5139--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NBRC HOF and Membership
   DIR By: 2y4life
       Date: February 15, 2011, 7:49 am
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       --- Quote from: Sound Rollers link ---
       >
       > What does the membership dues have to do with the Hall of
       Fame? These Master Flyers are not in the HOF for paying their
       dues on time! I would like to think they're in for personal
       achievement. Last time I checked George Herman Ruth "The Babe"
       hasn't paid any dues lately. JMTOT.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       No offense but the NBRC HOF is a bit more than just about MF
       points. It's based on who has contributed the most to the roller
       hobby and competition is just one aspect of the roller hobby. If
       you actually become a member, you'll read the bulletin that is
       sent out at the end of the year that will explain how the HOF
       works. This isn't baseball where everything is based on
       accomplishments. As stated before, Joe Marlett first published
       the this information back in '98 and he said it should be "which
       Roller fancy in the hobby has done the most".
       Competition isn't the be all and end of all of the roller hobby.
       Here is the criteria of who should be nominated:
       1) Secretary-Treasurer and Bulletin Publishers of non-profit
       national and international Roller clubs
       2) Organizers of regional and local roller clubs
       3) Roller Event Managers
       4) World Cup Continental Coordinators, Regional Directors, LADs,
       and Judges
       5) Writers of Roller articles that influence or help other
       fanciers
       6) Roller band secretaries
       7) Winner of major Roller contests
       8. Elected Officials who make a difference.
       Now onto Scott's point. You may be onto something and at the
       end, if there is a human element than it might just be somewhat
       of a popularity contest and that is the same for any HOF across
       the board.
       But looking at the list of current HOF members, I don't know if
       there is one guy who we can honestly say doesn't deserve it for
       what they've done for the roller hobby.
       Again SoundRoller, my stance and belief is that if you are
       inducted into the HOF, you should have lifetime membership.
       #Post#: 5146--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NBRC HOF and Membership
   DIR By: Cliff Ball
       Date: February 15, 2011, 9:33 am
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       Scott
       
       I happen to agree with part of your statement, "many work hard
       for the club with no consideration", Where I see the biggest
       achievement and where many of the best flyers/members come up
       short is in the area of " NURTURING THE SPORT", or if I may put
       it another way " AMBASSADORS FOR THE SPORT".  I see many good
       flyers/members in the NBRC but very few Ambassadors for the
       club. The TRUE AMBASSADORS are gentlemen first, never speak an
       unkind word towards fellow club members, go out of their way to
       serve the membership in whatever job needs to be done.....
       CONSISTANTLY. Men who are always there, not just when its
       convenient.   Hell Yes, the really good guys are POPULAR... and
       few & far between. Those who are good breeders and flyers are
       recognized by the MASTER FLYER award and little else matters.
       That's the way I see it.
       
       Cliff
       
       P.S.  Example:  A good NBRC member/flyer, judges a man with poor
       birds, the judges hands him his score sheet and leaves.  A
       potential HOF recipient, judges the same flyer, gives him his
       score sheet and either offers him birds or puts him in touch
       with someone with good birds.
       
       Hall Of Fame Award
       
       The NBRC proudly gives you the Hall Of Fame Award Winners. These
       breeders have demonstrated excellence in flying, breeding, and
       nurturing the sport. As such, the membership recognizes their
       accomplishments
       #Post#: 5151--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NBRC HOF and Membership
   DIR By: Sound Rollers
       Date: February 15, 2011, 10:39 am
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       So we found a common ground, I agree dues or no dues they're
       still Hall of Famers .
       --- Quote from: 2y4life link ---
       >
       > Again SoundRoller, my stance and belief is that if you are
       inducted into the HOF, you should have lifetime membership.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       #Post#: 5153--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NBRC HOF and Membership
   DIR By: wannaroll
       Date: February 15, 2011, 11:43 am
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       From what I have read in the HOF info is that it does not
       require you to be a member of the NBRC to be in the hall of
       fame. They should make them honorary members for life.
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