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INDIGO (Andalusian) Article By Frank Mosca
By: Tony Chavarria Date: January 18, 2011, 11:06 pm
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INDIGO (Andalusian) by Frank Mosca [center]
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[/center] Indigo is a color modifier found in many pigeon
breeds. Evidence indicates it originally came from the middle
east. Even today, many breeds from that area show evidence of it
in their phenotype. However, because indigo has varying
expression depending up the base color, it wasn’t described as
something genetically different until the mid-thirties.
Wendell Levi and Willard F. Hollander, in unison, worked out the
genetics of indigo. I’m not going to go into the now sixty year
old history, but if you’re interested this effort is describe in
Levi’s book, The Pigeon. Suffice it to say, though, that indigo
was found to be non-sex linked dominant in its inheritance. It
is not quite a simple dominant, however, and this is why it
often goes unrecognized even in racing homers, where I’ve seen
it in direct imports from top Belgian lofts.
Indigo in its heterozygous state (i.e., only one gene in the
bird) is what many fanciers try to achieve because heterozygous
indigo (het indigo) in combination with spread (think black for
the moment) produces one of the most attractive of all pigeon
colorations, Andalusian, so named for its similarity in color to
the Andalusian chicken.
It is a deep indigo blue coloration all over the bird. Better
specimens - at least in shows - are often laced on each feather
with a darker indigo blue coloration. (Homozygous indigo with
spread gives something totally different, a light bodied pigeon
with a darker head.) This andalusian color only shows up on a
blue series pigeon (i.e., a blue barless/bar/check which also
carries het indigo and spread
HTML http://www.angelfire.com/ga3/pigeongenetics/Spread.html..
A bird in either of the other pigment series (brown or Ash-red)
will not be andalusian even though it is spread and het indigo.
In fact, indigo will be almost invisible on the bird. Ash-red
indigos are fairly difficult to differentiate from simple
ash-red birds -- though once one knows what to look for, it is
sometimes possible to do so. Ash-red Indigos often show a more
"purple" tint to the rump and head than do simple Ash-red birds.
Brown indigos are simply sort of “yucky” looking.
COMPLETE ARTICLE LINK HERE
HTML http://www.angelfire.com/ga3/pigeongenetics/INDIGOHTML.html
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Re: INDIGO (Andalusian) Article By Frank Mosca
By: POLARBEAR Date: February 11, 2011, 6:09 pm
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OUT OF ALL THE "NON-STANDARD" COLORS, IT SEEMS LIKE ANDALUSIAN
SEEMS TO HAVE MORE OF THE BETTER PERFORMERS THAN THE OTHERS.
IS THERE A REASON OR IS IT JUST CHANCE?
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Re: INDIGO (Andalusian) Article By Frank Mosca
By: 2y4life Date: February 11, 2011, 6:21 pm
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What colors are "non-standard"? I know only the obvious but
could someone tell me which colors aren't standard?
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Re: INDIGO (Andalusian) Article By Frank Mosca
By: donnie james Date: February 14, 2011, 8:35 pm
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hay tony,
great post do you have any more articles like that you can
post??????????donnie james
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Re: INDIGO (Andalusian) Article By Frank Mosca
By: samir Date: March 5, 2011, 12:41 am
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Re: INDIGO (Andalusian) Article By Frank Mosca
By: MOTHERLODELOFTS Date: April 24, 2011, 8:45 pm
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:o
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Re: INDIGO (Andalusian) Article By Frank Mosca
By: joeb Date: April 25, 2011, 7:47 am
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;D
Keep em spinning
Joe
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Re: INDIGO (Andalusian) Article By Frank Mosca
By: Cliff Ball Date: April 25, 2011, 7:52 am
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This could be the "LONG LOST" ancestor from the Penson breed
cross, that gave rise to the indigo factor found in Birmingham
Rollers today! Just kidding, of course....LOL!
polarbear,
My family raises more Indigo and Andalusians than most, I'd say,
and although I hate to associate performance with ANY color in
particular, there seems to be a direct corollation. It is
probably because the fondation cock for this line (007) was an
Andalusian self. But when I get an andalusian self in the nest
box, I am always excited because there is little doubt that it
is going to spin. It's usually just a matter of how good the
quality, speed, frequency and depth will be...or whether it will
be overcooked. I seem to get about the same number of rolldowns
in Andalusian as any other color...3-5%. I never seem to get a
stiff andalusian that just won't roll. The same parents will
commonly raise an andalusian self, an indigo check self, and/or
a black self. I seem to have a number of good blacks, so it is
definitely in the line, not just the color. The indigo check
selfs are a close second in number of good performers. It's
funny, the blacks come off the same parents, yet most of the
purist guys would not consider them to be color birds. ??? Go
figure...
Cliff
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Re: INDIGO (Andalusian) Article By Frank Mosca
By: Joe Asaro Date: April 25, 2011, 8:36 am
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Cliff.....Ball rollers, one pair free with teeth cleaning and
checkup.You could have billboards up and down the freeways.lol
;D Joe
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Re: INDIGO (Andalusian) Article By Frank Mosca
By: Cliff Ball Date: April 25, 2011, 8:50 am
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Spoken like a true enterpreneur, Joe! Maybe I should hire you as
a business consultant! LOL!
Cliff
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